Pioneer DJ XDJ-1000 USB player no CD (8)

A CDJ with no CD? That’s the Pioneer XDJ-1000

Pioneer DJ XDJ-1000 USB player no CD (8)

Today, we remember two important revolutions. The first was when Pioneer announced the CDJ-1000. We could argue over which actual manufacturer and model was first, but I think we can generally agree that the first CDJ-1000 was the one that really made the difference. With this single move, the DJ landscape was an entirely different vista. The second was when Apple decided to ditch the floppy drive. Despite the reliance of users on this portable medium, it needed to die so that things could move on. And today, Pioneer is doing an Apple, and making the first move towards making CDs a thing of the past. Say hello to the Pioneer XDJ-1000.

First, the detailed PR from Pioneer:

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Digitally Focused: Pioneer DJ launches its first touch-screen, USB-only player
– the no-compromise alternative for digital DJs

13th November 2014: Digital DJs can redefine their creative horizons with the XDJ-1000: the first in a new line-up of digitally focused, USB-only, rekordbox™-ready players. With Pioneer DJ’s first ever deck to feature a touch screen, a familiar club layout and a host of pro-DJ performance features, the XDJ-1000 is the perfect springboard from the bedroom to the booth.

The large, full-colour LCD touch screen puts intuitive control at DJs’ fingertips; its interactive GUI has tabs for Browse, Play and Perform, giving DJs instant access to the player’s full armoury. Many features are inherited from the top-flight CDJ-2000NXS, including 206 mm jog wheels, Slip Mode, Quantize and Beat Sync. Plus the brand new Quantized Beat Jump/Loop Move feature means DJs can spontaneously move 1, 2 or 4 beats backwards or forwards within a loop.

The XDJ-1000 revolutionises browsing; DJs can use the Qwerty touch-screen keyboard to search for keywords, then scroll on-screen or with the large rotary dial. DJs can analyse and prepare their tracks in rekordbox (PC/Mac) or the rekordbox app (iOS/Android), and the XDJ- 1000 will display at-a-glance information such as Wave Zoom, Beat Counter, Phase Meter and Key Analysis – as well as provide instant access to their pre-prepared cues, loop and customised settings. Plus DJs can colour code their playlists and the illuminated USB port will reflect that colour so they instantly know what’s on each USB key.

The first Pioneer DJ player without a CD drive, the XDJ-1000 meets the growing demand for a USB-only player with all the performance pedigree of the CDJ set-up. And it’s compatible with KUVO – Pioneer DJ’s community, which enables DJs to provide clubbers with live set information in real time – making it a must-have player for the next generation of DJs.

The XDJ-1000 will be available from late November 2014 at an SRP of EUR 999, including VAT, and comes with a free download of rekordbox (PC/Mac). The rekordbox app is available to download via App Store (iOS) or Google Play (Android).

Find out more out the XDJ-1000 or Watch DJ Pedestrian’s unique performance with four XDJ- 1000s and a DJM-850.

MAIN FEATURES OF THE XDJ-1000

1. Large, full-colour touch screen with intuitive GUI

The 7-inch, full-colour LCD touch screen gives DJs instinctive control and enables the ultimate creativity. The GUI is divided into three sections: Browse, Play and Perform, so DJs can effortlessly see and access all the features they need, without the screen being overcrowded.

2. Faster browsing with Qwerty keyboard and keyword search

The Browse function is speedier than ever, with the ability to call up a Qwerty keyboard and search for keywords, and scroll using the touch screen or large rotary dial. Plus DJs can choose how they view tracks: list, artwork or custom view.

3. Professional features including the NEW Quantized Beat Jump/Loop Move

The XDJ-1000 inherits many of its features from the club-standard CDJ-2000NXS, including Pro DJ Link, which allows DJs to share one source with up to four decks via LAN cable.

  • NEW! Quantized Beat Jump: enables DJs to jump backwards or forwards 1, 2 or 4 beats from the current playback
  • NEW! Quantized Loop Move: after DJs have created a loop, they can navigate 1, 2 or 4 beats backwards or forwards through the
  • Auto loops and cues: DJs can instantly trigger loops and cues they’ve prepared in
  • Quantize: uses the track’s beat grid to ensure loops and cues are set and triggered in time with
  • Beat Sync: looks at the rekordbox beat grids, on up to four connected players, and snaps them to the beat of the master
  • Slip Mode: silently continues track playback during a loop, reverse or scratch and brings the music back at the right point when the DJ exits the
  • Needle search: lets DJs slide their finger along the ribbon to intuitively access any point in the track, just like with
  • Active Loop: DJs can use rekordbox to set an Active Loop at the end of tracks to ensure they’re never caught unprepared

4. Enhanced rekordbox track information for ease of mixing and track selection

DJs can analyse their tracks in rekordbox and the XDJ-1000’s large touch screen will display a host of information to aid DJing:

  • Wave display with Wave Zoom: the colour-coded wave display can be zoomed x5 for even more precise loops and
  • Beat Countdown: DJs can use rekordbox to mark key points on a track, and the XDJ-1000 will count down to them from up to 64 bars
  • Phase Meter: shows the position of the beat in the bar, enabling DJs to compare the phase of each player with the master deck at a
  • Key Analysis Indicator: a traffic light system in the browser shows which rekordbox tracks are in a compatible musical key with the master deck for harmonised mixes every

5. My Settings function including colour-coded USB port light

DJs can choose their personal preferences in rekordbox – including Quantize ON/OFF and Master Tempo ON/OFF – and the XDJ-1000 will automatically download them. Plus DJs can colour code their playlists in rekordbox, e.g. red for techno or blue for drum & bass, and the light around the USB port will reflect that setting for ease of identification in the booth.

6. Professional layout for familiarity at home and in the booth

The XDJ-1000 mirrors the layout of the club standard CDJs, so DJs can perfect their sets at home and move effortlessly to the booth to perform. The 206 mm jog wheels are the same size as those on the CDJ-2000NXS, for instant familiarity wherever a DJ plays.

7. DJs can load and browse music using Wi-Fi or USB connection

In addition to USB keys, DJs can load rekordbox-ready music from PCs, laptops and smartphones using a Wi-Fi or USB connection. They simply connect a device running rekordbox (PC/Mac) or the rekordbox app (iOS/Android) to the XDJ-1000 and then browse and load tracks from the device’s screen. Devices connected via USB will even be charged during performance.

8. Other features

  • Fully MIDI compatible
  • Serato DJ HID support planned for late 2014
  • Built-in auto standby function

MAIN SPECIFICATIONS

Playable fileMP3, AAC, WAV, AIFF(iOS version of rekordboxâ„¢: MP3 and AAC only)
USB storage support filesystemsFAT, FAT32, HFS+
Frequency response4 Hz ~ 20 kHz
S/N ratio115 dB or more
Total harmonic distortion0.003% or less
USB portsUSB A port x 1, USB B port x 1
Audio output portsAUDIO OUT (RCA) x 1, CONTROL (φ3.5 mm mini plug) x 1
Other portsLAN (100Base-TX) x 1
Audio output voltage2.0 Vrms
Electricity consumption21 W
Max external dimension (W x D x H)305 x 382.5 x 110 mm
Weight3.3 kg

 

XDJ-1000: CD out

Obviously, there will be much chatter about Pioneer making moves away from CD, but this isn’t really any kind of surprise at all. Rekordbox has been around for five years now and was always a USB only workflow, thus the writing was on the wall back in 2010. But CDs were and still are a very popular medium for DJs, so simply ditching them way back then just wasn’t an option.

But now they have, or at least have marked their media-less future line in the sand. The deveil is in the detail and thw eording in the PR states that this is the first in a new line-up. It’s not clear if XDJs and CDJs will continue in parallel, but I doubt it. I think the CDJ range has been assigned to old Pioneer, and not new Pioneer DJ.

So now an entirely digital rekordbox-based workflow is Pioneer’s future. Will we see an XDJ-800/900 next? All models having the drive ripped out and a touch screen implanted? Time will tell. But Pioneer is absolutely pinning their hopes on rekordbox.

But this in itself is not an attraction. Indeed, it is definitely not a reason to upgrade from existing CDJs. If anything it is a reason not to, as these units are less flexible. At least people won’t be able to walk up to the booth and demand that you play the song that they have with them on a CD. And previous CDJ incarnations can do the same thing as the XDJ-1000 and then some. At first glance anyway — it’s early, and I can barely focus on the screen.

An interesting point — without any physical media, is the XDJ-1000 now classed as a controller rather than a player? This is going to mess with sales figures and stock categories over the globe.

A CDJ with no CD? That's the Pioneer XDJ-1000

Touch screen in

This however, is possibly the real reason to upgrade or buy. CDJs and their ilk have had big screens in for a while now. And controllers are just catching up to this, but the touch screen was the inevitable path since the CDJ-2000 first hit the screen. It does make the XDJ-1000 seem a little lacking in features, but it’s clear from the video that this is an illusion, as the screen hosts a bevvy of features usually assigned to a physical button.

Ironically, Pioneer is someway behind another manufacturer with touchscreen CDJs. Gemini’s cheekily named CDJ-700 beat them to it a couple of years ago, but the XDJ-1000 is likely to leave it in the dust. It does however raise a question for me about where future XDJs might go. The 1000 has everything that you could reasonably comprehend to fit into such a unit, so I wouldn’t be expecting to see an XDJ-2000 anytime soon.

Touch screen support could be a stumbling block though. Interesting, Serato DJ HID support is coming, but that doesn’t really say anything about whether this is just information being passed from computer to screen, or if Serato DJ features are supported via the touch screen too. No mention of Traktor though which is telling. Have they put themselves on an island that nobody wants to or can visit now?

Pioneer DJ XDJ-1000 USB player no CD (4)

About the price

We’re used to the Pioneer tax by now. But given the landmark nature of this product, and the possible premium that could go with it, this £829 price tag puts the XDJ-1000 in the hands of a great many more DJs than before. Indeed, it’s as if Pioneer DJ is trying to wrap up all the table top users into a single price point. There is no aspirational post £1K here, and a XDJ-800 would most probably lack a touch screen. Perhaps given Pioneer DJ’s new independence, they’re trying to appeal to a wider audience and get more sales. This would do it.

Are you ready to let go?

Much like Apple’s ditching of floppies, this is a very bold but necessary move to remove the chocks from progress. I think it would be fair to say that DJs burn CDs rather than buy them, so removing a lengthy step from the workflow and getting rid of a moving part in the mechanism is a good move. Not everyone will like it of course, and I expect a heap of people decrying it. But your CDJs still work, and will most likely be available to buy for a little while.

But this is the digital age, where music is transcending media and becoming nothing but a stream of data. If you sit back and look at the CD workflow, it’s positively prehistoric isn’t it? Oh but wait… DJs actually like to feel they’re being DJs by loading physical media. This will be an interesting subject for sure.

Summing Up

The XDJ-1000 is the first and overdue update to the CDJ line. The quotes prices are $999/€999/£829 but check with your dealers for actual street price. They’re available at the end of November.

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        1. Appears that you are playing musical media files stored on a usb drive (aiff,wav,mp3) . Vinyl, usb, and cd are a form of storage media. Wutcha tryin to get at?

          1. I always too media to be a physical thing that is fixed and physically “played”, like CD, vinyl, film etc. I see USB as data. You’re not really spinning, or playing a USB drive, but simply streaming data from it. It’s probably semantics though and doesn’t really matter.

            1. It is semantics. Cassettes are media. Magnetized data on a tape or transferred on a USB, it’s all the same. If the only use of USB was to play back music, it would be considered a media.

            2. I would say that cd, vinyl and usb could be in the same category: if a person can show up and dj without a laptop or tablet, I’d consider it to be a media player.

  1. Even with this (compared to the CDJs) lower price point, this is still a piece of overpriced plastic controller at the price of a macbook pro.The idea of having standalone dj controllers might be appealing for a lot of DJs at the moment as it is convenient and easy to use. But on the other hand you have zero possibility to upgrade and everybody has a powerful computer in their pocket nowadays that can easily do the computer part.

    1. How is this a controller? It is a USB player if you will. A lot of people don’t use their drives these days, so shedding a little weight is a good thing.

      1. Of course you’re right that is not a simple controller, but the unit controls a software that is on the dedicated system of the unit itself. So basically the correct word would be controller / player combo.

        1. I disagree mate. All DJ players have “software” to serve as the brains for different features on the hardware. A controller is not a standalone, without a computer it is a prop.

        1. Serato “certified” doesn’t mean you have to have Serato to make it work. A controller is not a standalone solution. The correct term is a media player. Controllers are dummy hardware that depend on external brains like your laptop sir.

    2. the whole point of these players is to stay away from the huge macbook and actually dj. Mixing on a computer DVS system blows and all you do is stair at the screen.

      1. DJs who tend to stare on the macbook screen are those who have to rely on the screen a lot because they are not able to mix without the visual cues. Those will also stare at the CJD / XDJ / S8 screens. It will not differ no matter where you put these screens.

        If you don’t want to stare on your macbook screen just put it away a bit. I know some DJs who put their macbook to the very side of the DJ booth and just go there to select and load tracks. Its just a matter of skill.

      1. That, and the cheapest refurbished Macbook Pro direct from Apple still costs more. People just like to complain, often making up ridiculous arguments to support the moaning.

      2. I absolutely agree… and that supports my argument, that putting overly expensive ‘mini computers’ into DJ gear just doesn’t make sense nowadays. I understand, that its appealing and convenient to many DJs, but the idea to have dedicated system to run DJ software is absolutely outdated and economically stupid. Its actually a step back to have a non-native (wink) music software if you can bundle the cpu power to one device and make the rest more affordable. That is exactly the reason, why we have so much more high quality software and flexibility in music production nowadays.

        Pioneer with their quasi-monopole on the DJ booth of course like to keep it that way, because they earn shitloads of cash with it. Just ask club-owners or equipment-rental guys about their opinion on CDJs… they f**king hate them. They are expensive, have a very poor repairability and are super expensive.

      3. As an occasional visitor to this site, I’m really struck by how the people listed as Team DJWORX seem to blindly defend Pioneer’s pricing structures. It makes me really question this site’s impartiality in its advice.

        Quite often when someone mentions how expensive Pioneer products are, Mark or someone else immediately jumps to their defence. Guys, Pioneer products ARE hugely overpriced, no two ways about it. Prattle on about build quality, or industry standard, who the target market is, or economies of scale all you want, but the FACT is that these things cost anywhere up to 40% more than they should simply because they have the name ‘Pioneer’ down the side of the product. I work for a company that has the same position in its market and it does the same thing.

        To compare in the Australian market, at the same store, the XDJ1000 retails for AUD$1349 each. You need two of them, so you’re looking at $2698, and you don’t have a mixer yet. At the same store, the Numark NV is AUD$949. There are some differences in functionality, but does that account for a 300% price difference? I know, you need a laptop on top of that, but surely most people who are thinking about shelling out $3k to play music on, have a laptop they use for music.

        Are Pioneer the best at what they do? Possibly, but that doesn’t mean they’re not overpriced to the shithouse.

        I think the previous owners of Pioneer saw what companies like Numark were doing and the price they were doing it at, and saw the writing on the wall.

        It’s really only the blind faith and starstruck sheep mentality of so many in the game who keep the status quo.

        RISE UP PEOPLE!!!

        1. “As an occasional visitor to this site, I’m really struck by how the people listed as Team DJWORX seem to blindly defend Pioneer’s pricing structures. It makes me really question this site’s impartiality in its advice.”

          As an occasional visitor, I’m guessing that you clearly haven’t read all the times that I have berated the Pioneer tax on a product. The nearest thing to defence I can think of it “the Pioneer Tax isn’t so high on this one”, but that is still a disparaging remark about how much they charge. And I certainly have never defended Pioneer’s pricing structures at all, especially not leaping to their defence. And I’m pretty certain that nobody else in the team has done what you claim either.

          Here’s the thing — things are only overpriced if people aren’t prepared to buy them. It’s all a case of supply and demand. If anyone can charge a premium for their products, then they will knowing it will sell. They’d be mad not to.

  2. Can’t help but to feel a bit “meh” about XDJ-1000. Too little, too late. Pioneer could’ve/should’ve ditched the CD-slot way back with CDJ-2000, let alone CDJ-2000NXS.

    What’s worse, in their usual fashion Pioneer is introducing these “new” features with a “budget” model first – along with all the usual Pioneer “budget” model annoyances, like skimping the odd coin on things like digital output and grounded power socket.

    Furthermore, I’m not thrilled about over-reliance on the touch screen. IMHO the whole point of shelling out a s***load of cash for a unit like this, is to get *physical* controls. Now it’s basically like an iPad with a huge jogwheel.

    Speaking of jogwheel…I’m willing to bet that a lot of people would be happy to ditch it – especially if it meant bringing the price down. Now that beatgridding, syncing and whatnot are common practice in many DJ’s workflow, I’m betting that there would be a marker for a jogless unit a part of the existing XDJ/CDJ product like.

    So…without further ado, here are some concept ideas for TRULY (subjective) innovative models. Pioneer, feel free to steal there ideas ;)

    1) Take CDJ-2000NXS, ditch the CD-slot, replace the jog and pitch faders with rotary encoders, but the unit to 50% width, maybe add pads (ala DDJ-SZ) for cues.

    2) Combine two units described in section 1) into a shell of one device, thus enabling 4 decks from 2 units. A bit like Denon DN-HS5500 back in the day.

    3) Stand-alone unit for 4 deck that is the size of a 12″ mixer. In a nutshell, take something like the 4TrackTrigger by Glanzmann Digital, add a LCD screen, USB-slot for media and RCA/Digital outputs for audio as well as USB/MIDI ports for control signal output.

        1. Let’s see, you said ditch the jog wheel here:

          Speaking of jogwheel…I’m willing to bet that a lot of people would be happy to ditch it – especially if it meant bringing the price down.

          Here:

          replace the jog and pitch faders with rotary encoders, but the unit to 50% width, maybe add pads (ala DDJ-SZ) for cues.

          Do you even sync bro?

            1. YES, yes it is, cause if it wasnt, we would not have a syncbutton to begin with. most people that i have tought have not been able to beatmatch in the beginning.

              I dont mean beat to tracks together but to follow through
              all the way, that is an important part in many genres of dancemusic.

              But if it were easy to fly, do you think the autopilot would have been invented, or navigating GPS!

              Everything is thought up to make it easier for people that cant keep up or get tired.

              In many cases it turn to lazyness and lack of improvistation!

              thats why i never play from a playlist, it get boring not only for me but for the listners as well!

          1. Which parts of the following phrases you did not understand?

            “…that a lot of people would be happy to ditch it [the jogwheel]”

            Incase you don’t have a dictionary, “a lot” means “many”, as in “substantial amount” but NOT “everybody”. Therefor I also said:

            “…there would be a market for a jogless unit as part of the existing XDJ/CDJ product line” (typos fixed)

            You know, “part of” as in sold side by side with models that have a jogwheel. Since, you know, different DJs have – gasp – different needs and preferences.

            “English, motherf***ker, do you speak it?” – Jules Winnfield

      1. I purchase the traktor s8 about a week ago. I like the controller and slowly getting use to the touch strip, but I rather have jog wheels.

        The jog wheel is pioneer signature feature that put them on the map in the dj world.. It’s what start the whole history of djing after the turntable. How the hell is pioneer going to drop the jog wheel and group this with the cdjs.

  3. Damn, still no FLAC/ALAC support?!? It’s a digital player that doesn’t support one of the most popular music formats? WTF, Pioneer?

    ::sigh::

    Looks like I am still stuck w’ Serato.

    1. One of the most popular? I mean, I use FLAC a lot but I’m pretty sure that even if you consider FLAC the second most popular digital music format it’s a DISTANT second to mp3.

      Granted, it makes me mad too.

        1. Yeah but WAV doesn’t support tagging, whereas FLAC is fully lossless and does support tags… so it’s like all the great stuff about WAV with all the great stuff about MP3s.

          It just sucks cause it’s an Apple format that Apple barely supports.

          1. ALAC or ALE is apple’s lossless, not FLAC. FLAC is the most popular lossless format, no less because of tags (vs WAV). It’s really strange that Pioneer has omitted this again, and a dealbreaker for me (together with no digital out)

            1. Yeah, on my Apple machines, I have disabled iTunes because it doesn’t support FLAC. LOL, for a while I played the ALAC game, but for some reason ALAC files are larger (size) than FLAC files. AIFF does support tags/artwork, but again…..size.

      1. I should have said “one of the most popular” Lossless formats. I only play Lossless: FLAC, ALAC, AIFF, WAV. Most of my tracks are in FLAC. Serato & Traktor support FLAC decoding. The Pioneer NEX Car Stereos support FLAC decoding. I just kinda’ figured that Pioneer would have ported that tech over to Pioneer DJ.

        1. Oh don’t get me wrong, it should be there for a ton of reasons, but I guess the number of DJs who would use it doesn’t warrant the added… development? Or something?

      1. Are you tagging the file, or are you adding a reference to the database? Meaning, if I move that WAV file to another application, let’s say Traktor, will the tag travel?

  4. Like some of the other comments, drop the jogs, add pads and more midi mappable goodness. Take the NI S8 and slice it into a USB transport player/controller + combine w this type of large touchscreen and voila! this would be a great supplement for anyone who already has a CDJ or even turntables. It would also appeal a studio environment. This “XDJ” line feels like a weaker attempt and falls short of any real innovation that has yet to be seen from Pioneer DJ in a really long time!

  5. There are two things I don”t get here:

    1) Why there are the manual loop buttons. Does anyone still uses them??? I mean no hot cue, but yes manual loop buttons…

    2) Why the video is so long and boring?

    1. Some guys that want to impress their crowd, with manual looping gets that feature, while others like myself, dont get the multicolored hotcues, slipmodebutton, quantizebutton and so forth.

      The video is boring to reflect that a new era of boring djs have begun!

      If Pioneer were smart, they would have redesigned the whole footprint of the NXS, given the option of a tray like Denon

      , do i want a DVD or do i want a harddrive?

      Put in a sampler, better DACs for real lossless audio, FLAC decoder for one
      6 Cue or padbuttons, making the player okey to perform on even if you dont have analyzed the music in RBX, waveformreading @ an instant on mp3 or other lossy formats.

      Moodlighting, rgb Leds, let people have whatever color they want on the jogwheel or buttons.

      More colors on the players and mixers, personally im fed up with white, black or platinum, i want RED!

      More usbports, 2 or thre for multiple hookups to the player

      Bluetooth for mixers and monitors, so i can place the speakers whereever i want in the booth, or hook up a phone if something goes wrong!

  6. I like the idea. It’s about time Pioneer did this, but at the same time I can’t help but think they could’ve done more with it.

    So there’s no CD mechanism inside any more. What have they done with that space? They could have provided an option for an internal hard drive.

    The only way to search is by prodding the screen? I would have preferred the option to use an actual keyboard. Either fit a PS2 socket or an extra USB port.

    Speaking of extra ports, why only one LAN socket and one USB port on the top? So to network them you also need a hub and/or computer, and if you connect an external hard drive (I assume you can) it has to plug into the top surface.

    So to me, apart from the flashy screen, this still hasn’t surpassed my old Denon HS5500 decks – internal drive, keyboard search, two layers/decks/outputs, effects…

  7. So, Pioneer takes a Denon Sc2900, puts a touchscreen on it and sells it at twice the price? Typical. How will that touchscreen hold up in a club environment anyway?

    From the comments, I believe that having it play external media would be more flexible than having internal drives. Also maybe having more Network ports per player and then being able to set one of the devices in the setup (the players or a capable Pioneer mixer) as a master or Switch or bridge of some sort would be better instead of having an external wifi device or switch.

    No PADS??? Reduce the size of the jogs, put a line or 2 of pads in there please.

    I think Djs will stare at something. We stared at the tracklists and bpms in our cd bags, we stared at the track names on our flash drives and internal drives (Denon Users), we stare at our waveforms for now (no point in having visual cues and not using them). Striking a balance in between watching the crowd and what you are doing is key.

    All that said, please take all this with a pinch of salt….I’ve never owned Pioneer equipment, so hey, what do I know?
    That thing is shiny though :D

      1. They hold up quite well I’ll say. I have mine, from as far back as the DN s1200s to the 3700s and my friends 3900s, we have them in clubs. Yes, not as many as the CDJs, but certainly enough to know that they perform superbly.

  8. So, having tried triggering hotcues on a touch screen I’m pretty set that it’s almost universally terrible. It’s not that the app is bad, or anything, it’s just that it doesn’t feel like it should, ever. I want buttons, 100%.

    That being said, putting the keyboard there is great. I am curious that they didn’t put a finger next to it for reference, since it very well may be unusable by people with, y’know, big ole fat fingers.

    And I’m curious what the price of installing an optical drive is. At that, what’s the impetus for this product? Is there a reason it gets a touch screen but loses the CD drive?

    1. Pioneer products have DVD drives. They are roughly $30-$35 plus the costs of all the hardware they have inside that keeps the drive stable. tons and tons of shock resistance hardware. It’s like the drive is sitting on a cloud. It’s a huge sum in terms of costs.

        1. It’s big for a company like Pioneer but think of it for smaller less expensive products that use the same expensive drives. Saving can be 20-30% of a product BUT this is where the advancements come in. spend that saved money on improving quality and adding more awesome features that does not include hot cue’s on a touch screen aka the XDJ-1000 aka an ipad mini with a jog wheel.

        2. Well this kinda sucks…just forked out for 2 cdj900 nexus players a couple of months ago because of its play from usb capabillities. I never use cds.
          However what i would like to know, does these players have the specs soundwise as its bigger brothers? Same pitch resolution? Cant find any of that info? It lacks digital connections? Cause if its the same i might just sell those 900’s cause these players have hotcues and better loop control so to see.

      1. Mmm no its not, its a cost yes but not that much!

        Just you see, the next XDJ 2000 that will emerge, will drop at 2.2500$ at launch just like CDJ 2000 and later the Nexus did

        The question that remains, are Nexus the last true CDJ i think it might be, and if so, im getting 5 nexus right at the spot, so i have spareparts for years to come!

        XDJ 1000 have many flaws and one of them beeing no SD card slot or multiple USBports, just one, and thats having to much confidence on usbquality alltogether, that port will break be sure of that!

      2. I can’t say you’re wrong, since I don’t know, but $30-$35 sounds REALLY high. I mean, I’d buy it adding $30 to the price, but the drive alone adding almost $100 (pre-Pioneer tax, of course) to the street price? Once again, I have no idea, it just doesn’t sound right.

        1. The whole thing probably just costs $150 to $200 to manufacture anyways. So $30 is a good fraction of that. The final customer price is a lot more expensive because you have to pay the shipment from the factory, the development & design team, the distribution, the marketing costs, the warranty repair shops, the tech support…

          1. Oh I’m not disputing the final price at all. I understand how the product gets priced, and while there is generally something that resembles a “Pioneer tax” the last thing I wanted to insinuate was that the final product was massively overpriced.

            I was only mentioning regarding the optical drive itself, and between Toast and Mark I have a better understanding about that.

    2. Even the hotcues on CDJ 2000 and Nexus are horrible,

      The best system when it comes to setting and deleating cues comes from Denon and later on traktor 2 pro!

      1. Software is a different beast. I mean, adding/deleting/triggering hotcues on Traktor, Serato and VDJ is pretty much identical. I’ve never used the hotcues on CDJs since I don’t use rekordbox, but I totally believe they aren’t the best.

  9. Worst promo video I’ve ever seen!!
    I like the product though and I like the price even more.
    This is a good move from Pioneer, but I feel they could’ve done a bit more with it.

      1. Fair question :) I’m just looking at what the other models have to offer in the Pioneer range and the CDJ-850 just seems to be a unit that only few people would want to buy. It does have the feeling of the higher priced models but when it comes to functionality, it’s lacking. A link function would be nice for example.

  10. Let me tell you what a PRO does, he or she takes whatever they offer at the gig, club or party and they rock the house, they make good with what the have, no matter if its vinyl, cd or usb

    Another thing, they make it look and sound good as well, and i think many need to “Relearn” that fact.

    Ive sumbled across grown men, weeping about the fact the it does not say Pioneer on the player they got for the evening.

    Its not Pioneer, i cant perform or play, buhahahh

    DJs are the marines of the music industry, we IMPROVISE, ADAPT and OVERCOME!

    The faster you learn this fact the smoother the workflow will be!

    1. I do agree, but I do most definitely have a preference for a tool that works best for me. actually I hate club standards. I would prefer the B.Y.O.D. approach. a musician also brings his own instrument?

      1. Absolutely. Back in 2007 the club I was working at only had old CDJ-100. I brought my own turntables and DVS and rocked the hell out. But I come from a musician background, where if you don’t bring your own instrument, you don’t play at all.

        1. same here and I’m talkin even further back into time I think around 1992/93, draggin decks mixer and 4 crates of records… we have come a long way since hahahahah

      1. @ Chris, i ment PRO, not limp dix trying to act rad, posh, cool or gangzta!

        And riders?, the only thing thats going to be riding are women, guys that can perform because it dont says PIONEER on the label can stay at *HOME*

  11. looking at comments on other sites as well, i notice that a lot of people don’t seem to get what’s going on. this is replacing the 850. it’s gonna cost as much as the 850 (999 official means about 850 street) and has limited buttons (actually, the same ones) just like the 850. however, as it comes with the touch screen it can sport more functions benefiting from the ever cheaper processors and lack of cd deck. which means that it will also benefit from firmware upgrades to increase features (maybe). there will probably be updated models of the 2000s and 900s coming next year with the same big screen and the price difference will be made by the extra buttons etc. again, this is replacing the 850. which means it’s designed to be used at home rather than clubs. so the whole touch thing is ok. not a fan but i can live with it. hell, i don’t even use all the features in the 2000s most times so it’s all good. they will probably upgrade the 400s next and wait for the bif boys until next year. they just came out with the new 900 nexus this year so a bit too early for those to upgrade. plus as far as i get from a buddy who runs a music tech store, the 900s are selling like crazy so i assume there is not rush until the stock is gone.

    1. agaaaaah thnx for clearing that up, maybe it would have been smart to call this the XDJ-850. that way it would probably have been less confusing. I hope they make a kickass follow up to replace the CDJ-2000 with drum pads and all that goodstuff and more serato like recording ways for the hotcue’s

  12. Imagine a DJ that’s been around for 15-20 years and has thousands of CDs. He or she has to go and sit on a PC to rip all this music because the players nowadays don’t have or will not have a CD/DVD drive? Well that will suit new or wannabe DJs that buy tracks online, that’s for sure. Saying that – I’m not impressed. And judging by the comments of people saying “great we will not stare at the display of our DVS anymore”, well guess what – you will because you’ll have to do searching and typing. And colourful waveform is still there. Where’s the fun?

    1. I don’t think old school DJs were waiting on Pioneer to come out with a new cd-less deck before they started ripping their cds. Especially seeing as how mp3 has been around since the mid 90s.

      1. You may be right. I had a new mpc2000, 4000 and 5000, that I had to replace the pad sensors on them with light use.

        I also, saw a video of the djm-2000 nexus and the guy was beating the hell out of the little screen on the mixer, like they was mpc pads. If he can beat the screen like he was doing. I guess the XDJ-1000’s can take the punishment.

  13. Like the idea never, played CD’s anyway hated the whole process off burning and al that crap. Do think its a big misser to try and put hot cue’s in the touch screen BIG BIg BIIiiGGGGGGG misser, hope to see a more DDJ-SZ kinda approach to that which will lead to more creative live performance capabilities, and more #REALDJING

  14. Too Expensive without a mechanical CD Drive?? For Serato USE it just makes more sense if were price around 800 around the same price as the PLX 1000 but to me its overpriced hardware?? I can get an SX-2 for same price??

    1. it’s the CDJ 850 replacement. So it’s good news this actually has a form of hot cues. The XDJ 2000 will probably have physical buttons. Hopefully even in pad form

  15. Love the concept, and especially the price – finally one that won’t be $2k CAD a shot! I am surprised though by the lack of support for FLAC audio codecs. Hopefully there will be word of support for Traktor, and possibly even other software too.

  16. This is not the pro version. This is the cdj 900 version. Notice the play pause buttons are the same as the 900. Anyway. Now we know they were over charging 1k for a 50$ cd drive.

    1. No such thing as a quick question. You took the time to think of the question and the time to post the question. How long will it take to answer? Certainly longer than quick. Please show consideration and rephrase it. Also such a technical query is more appropriate for a manufacturer’s support line, not a forum like this.

  17. Pioneer is testing the waters with this model. Looking to see who grabs before releaseing the top of the line model.. If the XDJ-1000 for $1000 is replaceing the CDJ-850 which cost around $900 with a cd drive, but no touch screen. But the XDJ-1000 has a screen layout similar to the CDJ-2000 nexus. Imagine the price for the XDJ-2000 with all the bells and whistle.

  18. IMHO, this is an incremental product that needs the “killer app” to bring out its potential. What would happen if Serato released a custom version of DJ as an replacement for the Pio UI on the touch-screens? Game changer.

  19. why cdj only using usb, no cd, no computer, why the pioneerdj engineer make a turntable timecoded vinyl with the source of the songs is in the usb also, no laptop, no software only turntable with screen and usb controlled by vinyl

  20. The next lineup XDJ 2000 or SDD 2000 should be built like this!

    1. FLAC AND LOSSLESS support, no questions asked, most flac can be whatever quality you want, even DSD convertions if you want, but that demand alot better DA converters in the players, to sound really well.

    2. Tactile feed and programmable buttons, like the Hotcues and loops, touchscreen can be used for searching, activating different functions like quantize, slip, beatjump etc

    3. CADDY, for a harddrive i.e SSD

    4. Several USB ports and a traditional SD port as well

    5. Smaller footprint on the jogwheel and include a form of *DICER* or pads

    6. Increase memory and inbed RBX to be able to analyze and tag files on the fly in the players if you cant get ahold on your computer to do this, or in case of the computer breaks down.

    7. Be able to swich locations of the search options (BIG WINDOW), like i dont want tracks first, but artist, or BPM, or KEY

    8. Bring Camelot to RBX, most of us use Camelot as the main source when mixing in key, not tonal reading of notes!

    9. RGB colorchanging moodlights, would be cool of having green jogs, blue or yellow as a example.

    10. Dedicated usb on the back for keyboard if needed, or DICERS if not this option are implemented on the player itself.

    12. A more easy way to migrate RBX to a new harddrive, computer or be able to clone a usb memorystick..

    13. HDMI or Displayport to get a wider and better overview of the digital recordings that you have on the harddrive (LINK-ENABLED)

    Cheers!