DJ Tech DIF-7PT 7" mobile scratcher Vestax Handy Trax (2)

DJ Tech’s pre-Christmas surprise: the DIF-7PT

DJ Tech DIF-7PT 7" mobile scratcher Vestax Handy Trax (2)

Coming up to NAMM, we have come to expect some surprises. A leak here or there, or perhaps a preemptive release of info ahead of the carpet bombing of press releases is becoming the norm these days. But this picture popped up in my Facebook timeline today, and it’s guaranteed to cause quite a stir for some, for the current obsession with 7″ scratch vinyl looks to be getting a turntable designed expressly for it. And the DJ Tech DIF-7PT is that portable turntable.

Anyone involved in the scratch scene will be more than aware of the repurposing of old Vestax Handy Trax and Numark PT01 portable turntables to accommodate the like of Frisk and Raiden faders, as well as the 1200 Plates Fader Crib. This is all fully supported by the slew of 7″ scratch releases following in their wake too. I have no idea why it’s taken so long for this to happen — there’s a video of me from waaaaaaaay back in early skratchworx times scratching on a Handy Trax in Real Media format somewhere, and I’ve constantly harped on about getting a portable option for scratchers.

But finally it’s all happening, and ironically right after Vestax ceases trading and Numark discontinues the PT01. So there is an established and growing gap to fill, which has seen Vestax Handy Trax start to fetch 2-3 times their original value.

DJ Tech DIF-7PT 7" mobile scratcher Vestax Handy Trax (1)

JUST A SEC — HAVEN’T I SEEN THIS BEFORE?

7 inch portable scratcher turntable (1)
Remember this?

No… well yes… maybe. I’m still trying to work that detail out myself. Cast your minds back to October. Just after the DMC World finals, an image of a 7″ portable scratch turntable started to circulate. The 7 Portable Scratcher (or 7PS for short) was at the time little more than an idea and renders. And the designer has been working away at honing his idea and advancing on the original concept.

And then the DIF-7PT comes along. It would be glib of me to gloss over the similarities, because to me bar some details this is pretty much the same thing. So I asked DJ Tech about the origins of their DIF-7PT, and it seems it was requested by their partner Thud Rumble to be ready for NAMM that takes place in a few weeks. And it would appear that it is ready, albeit in prototype form. I’ve reached out to the designer of the original 7PS to see if he has been working with Thud Rumble, or if this is nothing to do with him at all.

UPDATE 1: Something has been lost in translation, but Thud Rumble isn’t involved in the design of this project.
UPDATE 2: The designer of the 7PS isn’t involved in this either.

DJ Tech DIF-7PT 7" mobile scratcher Vestax Handy Trax (5)

Obviously, the Handy Trax/PT01 principle is in play here, but concessions have been made to make it better for the task of scratching, as well as losing a few features too. The DIF-7PT has no battery power, USB,  or built-in speakers, but it does have RCA and headphone output. But there is three band EQ, a rotary pitch control, and speed selector too. And it’s belt driven, but if you’ve ever used a Handy Trax, you’ll know that it’s got enough torque to remove your fingerprints. And the price? Right now it’s being floated at $300, a price that may or may not be final or even accurate.

One thing is for sure — should the DIF-7PT appear on the DJ Tech stand at NAMM, there’s likely to be a crowd around it and a veritable queue of turntablist VIPs lining up to take turns — and us too.

GALLERY

The Old Owner
  1. my first thoughts were exactly the same; are the 7inch portable guys involved in this? Amazingly similar. However i will just be glad to see a well made product eitherway. I love my numark and raiden fader set up. but this looks great. (odd choice about not have battery power though? no playing in the park or on the beach unless you jack a street lights power)

    1. To me thats a HUGE oversight. Not so portable when you have to plug in somewhere. Even when I have this set up in the middle of my living room I don’t have to have my PT or speakers plugged into an outlet.

  2. Another step back in Dj technology ..Casio has the right idea with the trackformer they just need to build it with better quality.
    Maybe one day they will let me design one of these products?

      1. How about a skilled DJ on new technology?
        Even All the old school Djs had to start using Serato at some point because they knew digital Leaves more room for creativity and diversity.

        1. a skilled DJ on new technology learned the skills on old technology, if you put a newbie on a controller with synq or a cdj and after a few years you give him 2 turntables and a mixer (like the world famous supreme team)..im pretty sure he wont be able to beatmatch a couple of funk records

          1. After a few years?
            Watch a 4K flat screen TV and after a few years later go back to a tube TV?
            Makes no sense…
            Now a days The crowd really doesn’t care if your mixing on point…they just want the right song to make them feel good.
            Don’t get me wrong I still love my technics but I use them for what they were built to do …playing old Skool vinyl for my own listening pleasure.
            Wearing out needles gets expensive,records are heavy and turntable parts are pricey.
            As far as mixing funk on a controller goes pretty much the same as vinyl my friend.
            I been mixing the Bar-Kay’s with Zapp on my iPad …No problem
            Vinyl will always be around but not for most Djs because consumer demands it more.
            You can get a turntable at Target or wallmart.

  3. WHAT? No battery power? To me that’s a fail, especially in the whole portable scratch game. Where am I going to find a plug on the beach or in the middle of a field at a park?
    It looks more Handy Trax with the xfader modded to it. The concept is cool but there appears to be more that could’ve, should’ve been done.

  4. Looks like fun…which as I recall was the whole point in the first place. :) I’d pair this with a tight controllerist setup to reap some scratch benefits. I think my Twitch has an input…

  5. I agree it needs battery power or its not portable. It better have a good fader too. I have a handy trax w/ a Raiden fader currently. The faders aren’t the best. Personally I’m waiting on something else like a Raiden, but with an innofader or something.

  6. yeah I’m sorry to say visually that’s an eyesore, especially that whole fader area. What’s that raised lip all about? Would really love it if the fader was level with the rest of the turntable too, it looks like it’s dropped down about half an inch to an inch lower than the platter. – Some key points others have already touched on, which I and I’m sure many others have in mind are:

    – Fader, it better be an innofader or equivalent or else it’s going to be rubbish. We all appreciate and love the Raiden Fader / Frisk Fader / Etc out there but it’s a step back in time with all the maintenance they really do need. Elliot’s Innofader mini PNP would be super nice in this, at least give us the option to swap it if that’s the case

    – RCA or Line Inputs? I know it has an RCA output, but a RCA through would be nice to connect your phone or other elements into it to help simple things up instead of having to daisy chain multiple items into a single bluetooth speaker or other sound system

    – They should have just let us use our own headshells in my opinion, I know weight and balancing and all that is crucial on a smaller setup but a straight arm and headshell setup would have been super nice for us especially since the target audience are going to be beating this thing to hell, might as well make it as skip proof as possible

    – Battery of course, or at least a USB input for power so we can power it on the go with a 10,000 mah battery pack or something, that’s what spurred the whole portable “revolution” as of lately anyway (aside from the portable faders of course) – this lack of power options is just tethering us to the wall again, something everyone was trying to get away from in the first place

    What I DO love is the fact they went with 3-Band EQ, it really does make a big difference. The multiple color styles are a nice touch too. Is that a 10″ platter? Thumbs up if so, perfect balance between all the sizes of scratch vinyl out there for us.

    Is that reverse switch at the top for the fader or for the platter?

  7. TSP Scratch School Shenzen had a guy made one out of a chinese turntable and a pioneer fader. I personally think this design may look better, but DJTech’s prototype had mini-innofader, and so did DIFS mixer. Hopefully we can see DIF-7PT in action soon.

  8. So looks like the guys who came up with the same exact design (7″ Portable Scratcher), remember them, they had a printed design they were flaunting at the World DMCs. Well they have ZERO affiliation with this DJ-Tech/Thudrumble offering.
    WTF?!!!

    1. It’s a Black Eye on the Scratch Scene/Culture/Religion and weakens the bond that was helping to create cohesion and added a new life the Ahh Fresh…:-)

      For me, I support companies that are Scratch Friendly just because it’s coo to see how far Scratching has come and to see how far it can go…
      In reality my Local Organic Farmer does more for my well being so which one should I support or cheer on?….
      It’s a trick question because the answer can be both, not either or…Happy New year…Back to my lab…

      1. Hey Focus…I know you’ve been around long enough to see all of the good and bad in this industry…but bro c’mon keep it constructive. No more cheap shots and arrogant talk about who is cool with you and who isn’t. Nuff said back to the topic here…

        So what is it you think is wrong here? The product design? The people / politics? And what direction would you like to see for turntablism and why?

  9. The first one floating around looked like it would be good quality, but the DJ-Tech one looks poor. If it does get released I am sure some people will hack it to make it properly portable, should be easy enough to run the turntable of todays high power batteries which could also power a portable speaker as well.

  10. I’m seriously struggling to comprehend the level of ignorance in this product design.

    Besides the obvious visual facts, this is a product aimed at portable DJs, but lacks a battery??? Does Thudrumble thinks that we’re still in 1997 and anything they release will be bought?

    Good luck with this.

    1. Just to be clear – Thud Rumble has confirmed that they haven’t designed this. They are hardware partners but not on this particular project. But I think that we can all agree that battery power is a must, otherwise it’s a non-starter.

  11. Heard from the source…it’s not finalized yet, but one detail for sure is it will have a mini Innofader. So I’m sure the DJ Tech guys have their eyes glued here and everyone’s constructive feedback will come into play…especially suggestions about battery and USB power.

  12. Calling it portable is a misnomer. It is, however, a new breed of turntable. It’s the exact turntable I’ve been wanting. Might be nice to make the fader detachable, or give it an external input so as to use it with dvs.
    If it was me, I’d package a 7″ control vinyl with it.

  13. They are very bad…the only good thing they did is DIF-1S & M; after that seem they collapse.
    This turntable is a miserable copy of a 7″ portable scratch turntable.

    Doesn’t have any Battery (so why Call PT???)
    They lie on Thud Rumble (of course, after luck of DIF, is the only way to sell!)
    They Announce their products and never release (see their turntable).

    We can call this a serious company?!?!?!?!?

  14. It’s the Holidays so I’ll be a little more polite to your ego :-) It’s as black and white is it gets (pun intended).
    This is a straight copy from the original design and by now Mark probably knows the side stuff and playing favoritism as far I can tell….
    It could probably have something to do with his self marketing like this quote… “there’s a video of me from waaaaaaaay back in early skratchworx times
    scratching on a Handy Trax in Real Media format somewhere, and I’ve
    constantly harped on about getting a portable option for scratchers.”

    Haha what the funk it’s not for the mainstream readers it’s about the corporate companies reading this…..

    My prototypes and designs were out before Vestax and Numark existed…I did release the first Scratch Records on 7 inch format, small center hole at 33rpm…(shameless self promotion)…
    Coming in 2016, Super Ultra Pitch Kits for your Portable Numark or Vestax…Ask for by nameeee…:-)

    Back to this portable…
    There was room for 2 portable designs so this is a major setback imo. Dj tech could have spent the resources they put into this prototype and created something different. Thudrumble and Dj Tech reputation would have remained intact, Scratch Nerds would have had to 2 more coo Scratch Toys to play with…Elliot would sell more Innofaders…Mark would have 2 more products he could use to promote himself with…All Symbiotico…:-)

    2015 is ending on a high peak..Good or Bad,Black or White? The ends justify the means?…Don’t throw away your Vestax or Numark Portable yet…

    1. Just a couple facts-
      1: Mark retired from DJing for about 10 years, picking it up again in 2003. This was a few years after you had gone off the grid to take care of things. He didn’t see your stuff, and never said he created anything, just that he liked the idea from an early day to the point that he even posted some out of date video files, which, being realmedia, is kind of funny. Its the Betamax of streaming video.
      2: The best that Mark might get is some ad space, but probably won’t get much of anything. DJ Tech isn’t a big advertiser, and he doesn’t play favorites regardless.
      3: If he was playing favorites/on the corporate tip, he wouldn’t have mentioned anything about the original at all. That said, a news story is just stating facts, and he stated those. There was no defense on either side. If the people who made the original design want to step up and say something, the floor is open-you did, and everyone else did. There are no edited comments.

      There are plenty of people to attack in the industry. Mark isn’t one of them. As well, when you put up your kit, you know Mark would be the first one to put up a story right? Try finding another site who would get as excited as he would.

    2. Skratchworx and DJWORX have only ever been about what other people are doing. We’ve provided a place where big and small companies can get their stuff seen and talked about. And in this place, the community can come together and talk about what those people are doing and help to shape the future for DJing. It’s about others, not us. Egos and insecurities are checked at the door.

      It’s certainly not about me — I don’t talk about my deeds, post pictures of me, or even make videos with me as the star. My FB and Twitter profiles are private. I’m just a guy who runs a website the best way I can with what I have and the support of a small and loyal team. I have to pinch myself every day that I’m in the position I am.

      Focus — I have no idea why you keep dropping by to take shots at me. We both have a place on the turntablism and wider DJ technology timeline. Skratchworx was definitely cool, but I suspect that people will remember you and your deeds for much longer than the already distant memory of skratchworx and Gizmo. You do stuff, whereas we just report on what others are doing. Be safe in the knowledge that your contribution is immense. And when you continue to do cool stuff, please let us know so that we can tell others about it too.

      Getting back to the story — there are two sides, and I have now heard both. The upshot is that people are talking to each other, and the winner will be the DJ community. And if we’ve been able to play a part in that, then it’s all good. We’ll have the news when then there’s some more to report.

  15. Sad but when dj tech first came out,way before thud and q were affiliated,I emailed them a pitch for this idea of a 7inch turntable with attached crossfader…….

    I also in the same email pitched to them that they can help us out by making a one channel skratch mixer……..(since the other project makers are too efficient to design them to other countries)

    Sad that one’s dj background and accomplishments are never enough to be heard by ANY company unless your that one Masonic superstar dj…….

    I’ll boycott this as I did the qfo…..they are both super appealing to me……..

    Be humble that your true skratch talent shines best on a traditional and grown man set up that forever will be two turntables and one mixer……

    I was never into the nano craze no matter how cute…..a grown man’s hand belongs on a mature 12″platter…….

    (C)

  16. If this was some budget gear, this mixer wouldnt have this massive sub-frame. There’s 11 screws holding it to the sides. the line faders are those black alpha ones, and are replaceable.(and I bet you could swap them out with the cf)

    Oh and I forgot, you can run flash player loopers out of the laptop, with usb, annnnnd run that audio into side two of the mixer, so you got beats on one side, and digital files scratching on the other, all with no external audio interface.

  17. Hey Mark – You’re a journalist, and people come here to see insights and information that you can gather. But it seems lately for whatever reason (site hits, ratings, etc.) something’s been slipping a bit.

    I would like to see better journalism coming from DJWorx. Real stories, interviewing many sides, good primary sources, getting the story straight. I see you’ve crossed out and reclarified the various relationships or lack of relationships between 7PS, Thud Rumble, and DJ Tech. But even from the brief conversations I’ve had with 7PS and DJ Tech, the story is still quite a bit off. For obvious reasons I’m not in a position to toot my horn…whatever information they do or don’t want to release to the public should come from them directly. And if they don’t tell you things, you should be making clear distinctions between your own analysis and facts.

    You know enough people and have enough respect in the industry to get plenty of good information out to the public. I want to see a bit of return to this kind of quality reporting that got you recognized in the DJ gear arena. And I’m sure others do too.

    My two cents for the day. Merry Christmas y’all!

    Elliot