VIDEOS: Rane DJ Seventy Two and Twelve in action

The new Rane DJ Seventy Two mixer and Twelve digital turntable have been seen for a good while now, but not working. They are now, and we have some videos.

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BcDilzFAIUl/

As I believe all you cool young people say, it’s been a “hot minute” since the first offerings from the inMusic vision of Rane DJ appeared. In our attention starved minds, it’s been forever since we glimpsed the leaks and subsequent first showing at the DMC world finals. We had also hoped to see the Seventy Two and Twelve make an appearance at BPM 2017, but no — these aspirational lumps of nextlevelness have yet to be seen in a working state anywhere.

Until now. For DJ Fatfingaz aka JP aka Rane DJ’s front man has posted a couple of all too short videos of himself demonstrating his considerable skills on the next things that you want to buy.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcDm257Am5b/

Behold, waveforms on a mixer. Be still my beating heart.

BUT WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG?

Easy answer — Serato DJ Pro. It’s been in the works for a long time, and needs a solid landmark first product to show it off. There’s little point supporting this new Rane stuff in the very final release of the old version. Thus this will be underlining and reinforcing the brave new world of Serato DJ Pro, and drag users kicking and screaming into the promised land of whatever it is.

There will also be tactical and political reasons for showing off hardware a full six months before the plastic you’ve been throwing at your screen finally works. I suspect that the hardware has been ready for quite some time, and Rane DJ has quite rightly struggled to keep it in their pants. Expectations have been high and patience wearing thin.

I also imagine that rumours of other pieces of gear hitting the scene are at play, and an early unveil cements Rane DJ in the hearts and minds of loyal fans, who otherwise have had their heads turned, either by emptying their accounts into the tills of their local DJ retailer, or just having them turn up unexpectedly on their doorstep. It’s clear that the Pioneer DJ DJM-S9 has very quickly replaced the Rane Sixty Two in all the high-profile social media posts.

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SO WHEN?

The place to see all of this (Rane DJ and Serato DJ Pro) will probably be NAMM 2018. This is where Rane DJ traditionally puts on a big show, and have a veritable A-list of VIP DJs stop by to play and hang. Last year, inMusic hid their assorted wares in a private suite, but that’s not going to work for Rane DJ. They need to be out on the floor in full view of even the most casually interested punter.

The media blast from being in full view will be epic for Rane DJ and Serato, and certainly take attention away from others who may have they new shiny on display. Given the invite only industry focus, it’s amazing just how many non-trade mere mortals get to step foot on the hallowed NAMM show floor. And each one of those will be telling their cohorts about the new Rane DJ stuff. You can’t do that in a more sombre media only setting.

Whenever it all comes you won’t miss it, nor be able to escape it. And it’ll be interesting to see how all this pans out for DJs and the industry alike.

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  2. Pioneer can release an standalone turntable (includding needle for analog vinyl) with rekordbox integrated even before Rane/Serato come to shelves… and it will not be the first.. cough the bridge cough… time.

    It’s coming too tooo late IMO, whatever Pioneer/Native bring probably will bloat this out of the water. Said that I still think it will be useful for some users but I don’t expect it as next Big Thing.

      • Yup plus digitalized as midi controller, usb pendrive, screen and so. Just like their tour line but adapted somekind to turntables being embed or standalone unit where you plug your usb (or lan) turntable. All the tech is done and now they sell turntables too it’s a matter of time IMO.

      • Yesss and before any release and just a few demos at NAMM Ms.Pinky released the maxforlive patch that most users expected from Serato. Ms. Pinky didn’t evolve until scratch warped material, Serato never done it without warping neither.
        Finally NI released Remix Decks which made Ableton superfluous for most of the dj needs (even too much since there were less adoption than expected).
        This time Rane brings a solution 10 years later even from themselves (NS7 being Numark part of inMusic holding).

        • A common misconception, but Rane isn’t/wasn’t Serato or vice versus.

          That aside, the Rane Twelve obviously has its lineage in the Numark V7/NS7. The NS7 was a massive seller upon introduction, the V7 less so – which was odd as it was much more flexible. Some scratch DJ’s claimed that the combo USB/analog connections resulted in a less than tight performance.

          The Twelve builds on this by being 100% digital – it’s purely a USB controller, but with a 12” platter vs NS7/V7’s smaller 7” platter (another criticism of the V7). It will be interesting to see how the public take to it as it’s a fairly polarising product.

          The Seventy-Two, on the other hand, looks like the next heir to the ‘scratch-mixer-of-choice’ throne.

          • It’s truth if you take in consideration al the “possible” dots in the history being these…
            Serato Scratch plugin, SSL with Rane partner, Itch with third party, Itch 2, The Bridge/Mixtape, The Bridge fail, Itch 2 transformed into Sdj (Dvs come later remember?), Flip&Ableton link (as revamped Bridge), Rane split, SeratoxRoland dj808…
            Now Rane has been sold to inMusic but 12 will be sold as Serato product and it’s getting late release due that. Probably the hardware was made before the adquisition (and even before Dj808 release) so again timming and strategy lack on Serato’s side IMO.

            The twelve will lack in the same thight performance fro latency side. It could be better than NS7/V7 itch/Sdj due, let’s say, Sdj pro enhancements (and bugfixes) but never will be thightness than analog scratching. There is an inherent latency in any digital conversor that these “purist” could argue to percieve. Analog is analog.
            It didn’t make sense 7 years ago (size, digital, no needle, no pendrive…) and probably it will not make sense nowadays. Even Denon tried with 3700 and hybrid mode (to avoid licensing, to get more resolution than V7, etc). Another thing is “those purist” aren’t target anymore for Rane/Serato anymore whose are trying to make the SSL fanbase make the definetly jump and that’s it.

            The funny side is see these same “eolutions” being banned as Serato forums… (well even itch doesn’t gives a answer nowadays)
            First was the Arduino Cdx mod but later came ITCH 2 vs regular turntables.
            https://youtu.be/G17o_HuQvo4

            • I don’t agree with everything you’ve said, and I’m confused to the relavence of some of it.

              What does the DJ808 have to do with this?

              The Twelve uses all digital communication direct to the mixer – not combo digital/analog control/audio. I don’t see any reason it can’t be as tight as any other DVS integration.

              • Dj808 as strategic proposal with enhanced platters and big partnership. Serato users asked for controller from Rane since years ago. Roland was the choose and due any hardware development goes over 3 years from design desk to shelves make your numbers. That could (possibility I’m just figuring) explain delayed bug fixes and improvements (like midi clock)
                Rane has the rumored 12 from some years too (the old render from the old forums) and due the hardware part was ready to be implemented from more than a decade, any delay in software adds extra risk in “sweet spot” sell timming. As example Apple releases new iPhone before Xmas not after. If 12” is presented in the next NAMM and released to shelves when? May?
                Pioneer usually presents and shelves (lately is breaking the rule due competitivity and new segment products like samplers) but it has all the technology to release an standalone turntable with recordbox inside. The question is more about “making sense in its strategy” which probably not.

                You are right about thight integration against other DVS. It could be better in performance numbers due less digital conversion but there are two concepts maybe I didn’t explain quite right.
                First any software over any OS will have latency. It needs some time each round it code decode the signals involved. Digital encoder like this is faster than timecode (also less resolution so less accuracy) but enough for most mortals… not for die hard scratch users since analog signal doesn’t have the extra lag produced by adcdac stage.
                Which points to second concept market target.
                As evolution (not revolution like S8 or grids like monome, launchpad, apc40, Push) it has some compromises aside the extra lag. It hasn’t needle to allow the scratch users to use an analog vinyl. It will cut margins for revenue and probably these die hard users will embrace or deny it binary way… so it’s not the main target market being the not so die hard to not so hipsters/Hifi lovers in the other side of the rainbow.
                The ads will show a lot of scratch and some mixing like NI did with their new proposals but in the transition from Serato Scratch Live to Serato Dj what word are you missing?

              • When I think about this, I feel it’s that the CDX was just too soon. It was hard enough to get DJs to accept DVS, let alone ditching the whole tonearm and needle as well as real vinyl. There’s not doubt that it worked though — I loved mine.

                • I loved mine too, all three of them (when they worked)
                  the feel was just a bit heavy, but better with a different vinyl, and burning cds was annoying, especially if you had to add like one track to a scratch collection.

                  you really gotta get a 5500 :) it’s all the immediacy of vinyl, but with your own samples, and a small footprint. once you try it for a while, it makes dealing with a computer feel ridiculous (for scratching at least)

                  they’re easy to dismantle and clean, 2 cables to disconnect, and the pitch fader comes out easy to clean.
                  talk about a product people would lose their minds over-> a re-work of these, with 8″ platter, ditch all the stupid buttons/functions that you’ll never use, and fix that cue thing I mentioned.

  5. I want to try them both out. I’m hoping InMusic (Denon, Rane, Akai, Numark) comes out with something small and sized to go with the Akai AMX. Doesn’t necessarily have to have a moving platter. I want a small modular setup that can fit in a small briefcase and weighs less than 5kg – something that can fit under the seat when I fly.

  6. i guess i am one of the few not jumping up and down at this video…. i mean i know what these can do seeing that they are just bigger platters like the ns7. i just want top see what features the mixer has above others

  8. Just comparing.. S9 and 72 (on Paper).

    I personally think that 72 is too much similar to s9 (even worst, beside the fact of 2 Mic input and session out).

    Loop structure are much better in S9, clear GUI is much better on s9.

    Screen: this screen sacrifice a lot of space and make this mixer as a “Xmas Tree” but dont have (beside´a funky appearance) a real use, You still need a laptop.

    72 is not a game changer in my point of view. You still require a Laptop and basically is a copy of S9.

    Beside this, I am trying my s9 with Rekordbox…and (except some nice feature like “label” in Serato) I can not feel any difference in Latency or stability with Serato and I have 2 choice on same mixer.

    Ps: I am not work for Pioneer and I am not a big Pioneer fan.
    To be clear I owned my first Rane in 2005.
    But i really dont understand the point of inMusic to copy (under different brand) the flagship of Pioneer products and add something?? This is innovation or evolution? I have not answers..but I dont feel comfortable anymore with Rane (or Denon)

    just my 2 cent

    • There is no GUI on the S9 – there is no screen. Also, if you look into it, apparently development of the Seventy-Two started years ago before inMusic took the reigns of Rane, and before the S9 materialised

      • For GUI I mean clean (and not messy as 72) layout of Buttons etc..
        And I have my doubt that 72 born before…But also if happened..Now sounds like a copy.

        Regarding screen in my point of view is useless.. You still need a laptop and this screen take only space on mixer.

        But this is just my opinion..I am a simply scratch guy :)

        • Horses for courses, etc – but once you’ve played on units with screens it’s hard to go back to only having your computer screen. I’ve spent a fair bit of time playing on Numark’s NV and Denon’s MCX8000, I’m looking at a new controller right now and I really don’t want to get one without a screen. It’s so handy for cueing up and instant access to track information without looking like I’m checking my emails

  9. cool, i guess, but still not doing anything that can’t be done with gear already out, so in that sense, it’s just an upgrade on appearance.
    Now, I’ve spent a LOT of time trying to make new tricks, especially with cues, cause they’re there, and we really aren’t utilizing them.
    I’ve found that the best ones still need a touch platter, even with motorized. otherwise you end up with the platter movement and touch being so soon together, that the play continues even though you’re holding the vinyl. (If you’ve addressed this and solved it, I’d love to see it and will buy on immediately)

    I’d buy it if it came with a simple, effective out the box scratch experience with the mixfader

    • I believe the Seventy-Two is doing things that can’t be done with any other gear – namely having a touch-sensitive screen onboard to enable you to see scrolling waveforms and navigate your library. Then there’s also the stacked effects capabilities. And I don’t believe there’s a 12″ motorised platter controller currently on the market.

      • “is something” and “does something” are two different things.
        i can run dvs on my phone and sit it on the mixer, and have the ability to change the orientation.
        the problem with “new” gear these days is too much “playing it safe” nothing ventured, nothing gained.
        the are plenty if 12″ motorized platter controllers…every turntable with a timecode signal coming from it.

  11. THIS setup is what V7/NS7 people were asking for around 2010: modular, large platters, and familiar. Will it be what we want 8 years later? Since I’m one of those, I might be the target market. I am intrigued, but I don’t see anything next-level. If the platters could play tracks from a USB flash drive like CDJs/XDJs without a computer… that might do it.

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