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REVEALED: Rane Seventy Two is all you wanted it to be

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Damn it Rane — I’m dressed up and ready to work out on a Sunday morning, but my inbox, social media, and comments are pinging like hell with pictures of your brand new Seventy Two mixer, unveiled at the DMC US Finals. For me it’s more notable for DJ Perly taking first place, which if I’m honest is probably more important in the whole scratch DJ scheme of things, because Perly is the first female US DMC champion. Well done Perly!

But back to the mixer. For the record, this is the first time I’ve seen or heard any details. The photos are everywhere (and uncredited I might add) but thanks to Tim Assam II and Nick Bivona for the heads up. I got my copies (cleaned up and improved for editorial purposes) from US DMC organiser Christie Zee’s Facebook page, and the bottom shot is most likely from Rane’s event photographer.

I’m getting a demo via Skype tomorrow, so right now I can’t answer every question — not because of any NDAs (I don’t sign them now), but because all I have to go on are the handful of pictures in my assorted inboxes.

REVEALED: Rane Seventy Two is all you wanted it to be

Reworked from the original image, because thats how I roll.

Getting the oh so obvious out of the way — it’s the best battle mixer Pioneer DJ has yet to make. Clearly, it’s the DJM-909 and DJM-S9 in a blender, held together with a liberal serving of Rane magic. The established Rane ID is there, but the influences are crystal clear.

Let’s bullet point this because I now need my breakfast:

  • Two channels classic battle mixer design
  • Looks like USB x 2, AUX, and phono/line selector (can’t quite make it out)
  • Serato DJ mixer
  • Classic Rane build
  • Mag Three x 3 fader reference — possibly updated fader in all slots
  • Three band EQ plus HP/LP filter per channel
  • 2 x 8 buttons just like the S9
  • Separate mode buttons showing pitch play, man loop, pad fx, fader fx (ooh nice), transport, cue, auto loop, roll, sampler, and slicer.
  • Big central touch screen. I think it’s touch because of the  touch fx button right underneath it.
  • Two banks x 3 effects buttons.
  • Flex FX button
  • FX depth control
  • Big effects switches, possibly removable to rotate switches.
  • Separate Sampler channel with filter control and effects routing?
  • 2 x mic channels, with echo and duck control on mic 1
  • Curves and reverses on all channels
  • A mysterious “deck swap” LED
  • Footswitch input
  • Dual USB inputs
  • Dual USB outputs labeled “turntable” (be still my beating heart)
  • the biggest grounds in the history of the world
  • Booth and master
  • Session in/out
  • Phono/CD plus aux per channel

I think that’s everything of interest. So there’s a lot going on, and I imagine I’ve missed some things too. But it’s very clearly preempting whatever Pioneer DJ had planned next for the S9. inMusic is clearly piling the pressure on.

REVEALED: Rane Seventy Two is all you wanted it to be
USB turntable inputs? What magic is this?

THE MOST EXCITING THING

I’m sure a lot of you are experiencing trouser trauma at the top of the Seventy Two, and rightfully so. But it’s the dual USBs labeled “turntable” that excite me the most.

At first I thought it was a hub (which would have been a great idea), but this could indicate another Rane device is coming. It could be a turntable (I’m hoping for a more turntablist friendly version of the Denon VL12 at some point), or more likely a nod towards an external device, perhaps an audio interface/hub/screenthing (think Numark Dashboard) that you plug your regular decks into and in turn just USB out to the mixer. I’ve head of something similar floating around so I guess we’ll see.

My mind has logically already thought about a Seventy One and Seventy Four. Hell, let’s have a Seventy that’s essentially a nuke proof box with three faders and EQs.

WHAT’S THAT SOUND?

It’s credit cards hitting screens to no effect, and cameras busily snapping pictures of DJM-S9s and bunging them up on eBay. For the Rane Seventy Two clearly replaces the old Rane Sixty Two, as well as the S9 in one fell swoop.

There are questions though — the price is unknown, but it obviously won’t be cheap. That said, while the engineering is still Seattle, the manufacturer is far east, and the promise of being able to do more is apparent. My guess is that whatever the S9 is now, the Seventy Two will be the same or a tad cheaper.

That’s enough for now. I need to work out, eat breakfast, and have the rest of Sunday off, because I suspect this week will be somewhat busy. Let’s wait until we get the full detail on what this beauty can do.

REVEALED: Rane Seventy Two is all you wanted it to be

ONE LAST TIME

Congratulations to DJ Perly. I’m sure you’re all seeing nothing but the new Rane mixer, but that’s not the most important thing that happened last night.

GALLERY

 

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Mark Settle
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I was the editor around these parts for the first two decades of the DJWORX journey. I’m on a creative journey at The Worxlab, and drop in occasionally here. Expect the odd article from me every now and again.
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114 Comments

  3. Usb turntable ‘ins’ ? Fingers crossed for magic to drop soon in regards to that.

    And big up Perly can’t wait to catch the performance she put in!

  5. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a317cb8ec9dc15e96ea3444ce04dcf9e844c470f1f95d6526f9f1de39b938e1e.jpg

    I just saw this somewhere in the comments, if this is real and turns out to be a motorised platter for a 12″ controller (and MIDI capable), this is a turntablists wet dream come true.
    It’d make sense concerning all the “what should have done long time ago” posts from the few lucky ones with more insight.

    This is a heavy blow and for me as a loyal Traktor user who’s very annoyed by the lack of communication from NI this feels like a nail in the coffin for Traktor. I still hope they’re working hard in the background to deliver something themselves, but this is really hard to beat especially since our hopes of a Serato and Traktor certification are gone at this point.

    1. Hahaha… no. There’s so much wrong in that render that I don’t know where to start. The lack of screen should be enough for people to know that this is a complete fake. I’m not saying that a 12″ motorised unit isn’t possible, just that this isn’t it.

      1. Didn’t consider this a “final” product release anyway ;) To me it still would make sense though concernig some of the statements that have been made, but I might be wrong of course. At the same time I find the flashy buttons, LED’s and the screen on the 72 mixer pics strange since it’s not connected to a (obvious) power source…

          1. True, I´ve only seen the 3rd pic of your gallery blowing up in my feed and there is no cable visible, that’s why I was hesitant. As for the 12″ controller I personally wouldn’t need a screen on there since the mixer has one but the buttons should definitely be placed on the buttom and not on the top for easier reach. Let’s wait and see, it’s been a while since I was that excited about a product release.

      2. Vinyl records don’t have a screen. Most DJ’s seem to be pretty okay using a turntable without a screen, or integrating with their DVS loaded laptop

    2. On/Off swith next to the start/stop? Hotcue buttons on top? Too far. No vertical pitch fader and also on top? No way. Fake. If you have to build a thing that improves turntable, you have to solve the layout problems of setting a turntable in battle position.

    5. this is what numark did like over 12 years ago to what rane might be putting out and it didn’t sell well. I guess if this is true let’s see if people will jump on it.

      1. I remember the CDX and HDX, they were nice pieces of gear but I guess way ahead of their time. Also the music distribution has changed a lot since then, but nevertheless it might still be a niche product compared to the whole DJ scene and the huge variety of workflows. But let’s wait first if this is actually something they’re working on…

      4. Not really since these were standalone media players with limited midi (note for pitching and clock, no scratch) and this is going to be a revamped V7 without tonearm neither… it should be standalone (includding thumb drive) to be true technics replacement. I expect a better product from Pioneer next week… or ten years :V

    6. It’s all about the lag. No point if this produces the same amount of lag as a turntable using DVS. A standalone media player turntable with HID capabilities would have served better.

    7. I don’t consider it the “next big thing” since it was done more or less and nobody care BUT if someone drops a turntable with the possibilities of NI D2 or NI drops a standalone D2 with soundcard and DVS support… similar to which seems it’s going to be this new Rane mixer then we have something true useful and up par to it’s era. That could be the true future of sound. Obviously we shouldn’t wait another 10 years to see it happen lol

  6. Not sure there will be a Rane 71 coming. Everyone bought the 62 and the 61 got discontinued quite quickly. Not sure they’ll be making a similar one again.

    1. You could be right. I think it depends on what a Seventy One might look like. If it was really stripped back to one USB, no touch screen, and was just a bloody good two channel with audio interface that was built like a tank (think MIxars DUO) then that would work. The price would have to be good though.

        1. Well that’s in the eye of the beholder. ;)

          But yes, just like that. I’m still a firm believer in a no frills built like a brick shit house mixer. Do the basics incredibly well and let users add an interface and MIDI buttons themselves.

  7. I hope Rane will also put out a 4 channel mixer for the more house oriented dj’s that dont want to use a rotary..that market is still dominated by pioneer and A&H, like to see more competition there to..

    1. See Denon. That is the InMusic brand that offers what you’re looking for. At a very reasonable rate for what it offers. InMusic will leverage the strengths of each brand to compete with Pioneer and not compete directly with each other. It all makes sense when you think about it.

          1. Well, something like that, i really like the whole design of the mp2015, but i played with it, and rotary knobs is just not for me.
            But i like the way it looks, classic and futuristic at the same time, while most mixers that come out, look like spaceship control panels.

  8. Please, please sort out the upfader curve this time. If Vestax & Pioneer can do a channel curve which you can both cut and fade with on the same settings then so can Rane (please!)

      1. The other Rane mixers have a curve adjust too – but it’s still not possible to do a Vestax type curve on them. With Rane the curve option is either slow or fast. The vestax curve can be set it so it cuts fast for the first centimetre then gradual for the remainder of the fader. This way you can scratch with at the top of fader AND do fades with the rest.

        1. You mean to have dual curves on the channel fader? (top=off, .25mm from top=on, bottom=off with a gradual curve from .25mm to bottom)
          That would be pretty damned cool.

            1. The only Vestax I still have laying around is my 07 samurai. It doesnt have the curve adjustment style you are referring too. Maybe it’s only on the non-samurai models?

          1. Throughout the video he alternates between fader and the switch for sharp cuts – but yes the fader sounds a little softer in comparison. He does a true fade out towards the end.

            If you check the last minute of the video (from 6.08) all the transforms & orbits are done with the channnel Fader. Then he throws in some fade out forward scratches and baby scratches.

    2. Inmusic, if you’re listening. This media player are going to take hype from Denon SC5000. Especially if down right. I thought Numark will make a update to the CDX or HDX, 12in spinning platter. Not Rane. LOL, the Rane of old is truly gone. I wish I invested into Rane, before the takeover. This is not the most attractive deck, but this will be hot. A lot of djs are asking for a 12in deck spinning media player.

  12. I wonder how long that power cord is? lol Por serio tho, big ups to Perly for winning the US DMC Final. I look forward to seeing this as a final product and what the pricepoint will be. If it meets or beats the S9, Pioneer will finally have some serious competition. Competition will breed innovation. :-)

  13. It looks very busy on the top and so much wasted space on the bottom…. kinda looks like a z2/s9 had an ugly baby…. maybe some will like the aesthetics but i think it’s ugly and looks like something you’d play at a casino…. IMO!

      1. Why? Your hand goes up and down not 2″ to the left or right ?? ( on the up faders) on the cross fader you do t go left and up 2″? I’m not being negative I m looking for the reason why.

        1. Even the smalllest DJ hands are at least a few inches across, and some techniques (e.g. crab scratch) require all five fingers to execute. Moving controls out of the way results in fewer accidental control actuations, and moving screws out of the way results in fewer cut fingertips/knuckles. Watch a few turntablist routines on video and you’ll see how much of that “wasted space” is used for various hand movements.

  14. The more I look at this mixer the less I like it. I know I’m not the target audience, I get that, but it makes me frustrated to see something so… uninspired from Rane. I know this isn’t the Rane of old, and I get why it looks the way it does but I was hoping that they would go in a different direction, one to set themselves apart from the competition, instead of trying to fit neatly into a design schema that already exists.

    It was always nice to go into a store and look at gear and see different options. I get why it is what it is, but I just don’t like it. I was hoping for something that would get me excited, but I feel like it’s another mixer to compete side-by-side with the S9, instead of doing something different. And by different I don’t necessarily mean new. Mixers lately, to me, have been WAY too busy.

    1. Imo, besides the switches, which really arent that different than the jogsticks of 57 yesteryear, this looks more like a new 62 than an s9.

      Imo, if the new mixer weren’t drastically different, there’d be no reason to upgrade from a 62. I will reserve my opinion on this joint until I hear what the new efx sound like.

      1. IMO, it’s what the S9 should’ve been, an updated DJM 909. The banked effects, screen, and effect toggles etc…..
        It’s crazy that Rane did something Pioneer should’ve have done.

      2. I don’t think this looks anything like the 62, at least in the top half. Putting them side by side, I think if you rearrange the S9 with a screen in the middle of the top portion it would look a lot like the 72.

    2. Good observations and I share same. Glad to have just picked up the 57mk2 from Mark and it’s here to stay. Already, I am looking for the 72mk2 for that “different” feel/look. It will be very interesting to learn what the “USB turntable” ins are for!

    4. This will all depend on the price point. If it ends up even being $100 less than an S9, you are getting an amazing product with comparable features at a lower price. If all three faders are the Rane Mag 3 faders, this would be even more enticing.

      1. Rane has, generally, been more expensive and more aspirational than most Pioneer mixers (generalization, of course). But if it’s cheaper than the S9 that just means the next S9, which will probably have similar features as this one, will be around the same price. I doubt it’s going to be cheaper than the S9, personally. But you’re not wrong.

      1. Would love to see the exact same sound card as on my MP2014.

        I can connect my iPhone/iPad on the second USB input (no hub required!) and that allows me à very usable backup mode with external mixing mode using DJ Player (rare iOS app supporting external mixing routing).

        Btw, the session IN is like on. The MP2014 I guess? Can use it as an input for connecting a second mixer or as AUX?

  17. the S9 is the nicest looking mixer around currently, now Rane comes which this ugly circus to try to compete with the S9.

    And im sure it will cost a monthly paycheck plus more

  20. I hope the video shows DJ Perly actually earning the title, instead giving it to her because she’s a female in male dominated event. I have seen instance in male competition where all the female had to do is show her face in the place and win the prize. If I was a woman, I will be affended if to win a contest without actually earning it. It’s like giving all mental challenge persons a metal at a special Olympics, without them being competitive.

    1. if your right and her set is mediocre at best, then Pioneer should demand this mixer back from her, and donate it to someone more capable pushing the art form of Djing. #realdjin #nosyncbutton #vinylonly #unpluggeddjing #djisnotajukebox

    2. Trust, the girl has skills. Numark chose to use her part of the pt-01 scratch marketing campaign and she was both regional champ and vice national championship in dmc 2016. Both her and dwells are showing how quickly the youth have been able to pick up and begin mastering the artform. Both her being a female and Latin, it gives my daughter someone to look up to.

    3. Hi Heavie486, would you be affended or maybe you meant offended? either way can you name the event and female DJ where the said instance occurred? I’m sure many others would also like to know about this contest you mention. I have witnessed female battle DJ’s and battle rappers getting ripped off but not the other way round.

    4. It’s like giving all mental challenge persons a metal at a special Olympics, without them being competitive.

      or you know, just ANY Olympian :/

  22. My bet is these “usb turntable”s hosts are for class compliant midi turntables like Denon or dicer-like controllers. Rane could let it open to the possibility of new midi turntable with full midi data (includding the platter) but I won’t hold my breath if I was any of you…
    Congrats to the DMC winner and let’s hope the Standalone Dashboard comes some day…

  23. what if you can use this mixer standalone…? The USB-slot might be for storage-devices. Just plug your usb stick to turntable a and play yout tunes with dvs…
    Okay… just joking!

    1. Technically it is totally possible. USB stick with tracks plugged into a mixer. Use LCD on a mixer to select a song and load to the deck (left or right). Decks play timecode to the mixer, mixer plays tracks. Firmware can handle this stuff easily. It does some heavy stuff on CDJs, so technology is not an issue. It’s just another under the table deal with Serato. I’ll stick to vinyl until this bullshit is over.

    1. It might look ugly because Rane choose to light it up as a Christmas tree in their promotional photography. My guess it won’t look ugly in normal use when you have your Serato waveforms exactly where you want them to be and without all the buttons lighting up in a different color.

      1. it looks like it was made in a candy shop.. after the 56 most of the Rane mixers looked ugly

        Vestax PMC08 best looking historic mixer imo but awful digital sound

  26. A few things on my mind:

    One, it must kind of suck for this competitor to win the competition, something you have worked so hard for, only to be overshadowed by a piece of gear!? It’s a metal box with knobs for crying out loud…

    Two, what is with the screen in the top center? What is it for and why haven’t I read any mention of it? Maybe it’s so obvious or people just plain don’t know but I am kind of amazed that no one seems to talk about it…

    Finally, if they truly are making vinyl turntable controllers IT’S ABOUT EFFING TIME. For so long now I have looked at turntablists and vinyl spinners alike and thought that it is so silly to have needles and tonearms these days considering they are never actually used for anything but transmitting a control signal to a computer. I thought this would have come a long time ago now…

    1. – DMC is a shadow of the past in relevance terms almost.
      – The Screen seems an updated version of pio909 and there is a lot of mind shitstorm about if the mixer could be the “standalone dvs mixer” die hard turntablist users were waiting for years.
      – Turntable controllers are old (starting from stanton scs.1d) and not so popular against turntables since these require high resolution and software thight integration which for mixing can bet the timecode approarch (and keep the dependency and sales of vinyls) but also the needle being analog system is the best solution for scratch battleweapons. Few (near to zero) die hard turntablist scratch dvs more than mixtape personal edits due the inherent latency in the digitalization conversion of the system… so that’s why an Hybrid turntable (something like the V7+needle with extra midi control) could check all the boxes and make that user target consider jump from their regular turntables.

      It’s not about time… from Rane standpoint it could be the desesperated bet to keep their relevance in a market dominated by controllers and Pioneer as flooder. From inMusic could be the missing pieces of its own puzzle to give some competition to Pioneer in all fronts (like new Denon units are doing in media players arena). Expecting the standalone dashboard could make sense against Tour series too but I still need to see all these rumours happening… last time I get excited with Roland/Serato it seemed a hybrid turntable coming and they bring Dj808 XP

    1. Hopefully they rerelease a version of the Z2 where you dont have to use midi in order to use the crossfader with timecode. Not having a seperate mappable audio in/out killed the Z2 for me. I bought one and returned it two days later.

                1. I thought so at first too, then I adjusted the curve on the channel fader to cut. Works pretty awesome actually. Of course this is also the first mixer ive had using software fx. Everything previous I used the send/return loop.