Rane SEVENTY-TWO MKII and TWELVE MKII for more than just Serato

Rane SEVENTY-TWO MKII and TWELVE MKII for more than just Serato

A short time ago, we posted about a sighting of an updated Rane TWELVE. DJ Jazzy Jeff was entertaining us with a lockdown set on what looked like a pair of revised units. But it seems that it wasn’t just a new TWELVE as a revised Rane Seventy-Two has been announced to go with it.

Plenty of official words follow, and then we can get into if this has changed my mind about the originals:

RANE® REVITALISES FLAGSHIP SEVENTY-TWO MIXER & TWELVE MOTORISED CONTROLLER FOR 2020

The SEVENTY-TWO MKII adds external crossfader tension adjust and MAG FOUR faders, the TWELVE MKII now connects to more DJ software platforms.

Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA (August 6, 2020)—RANE (dj.rane.com), an established innovator in the DJ industry, noted for their standard-setting solutions coupled with unequalled reliability, today announced the next evolution of DJ battle tools. The SEVENTY- TWO MKII adds a highly requested external crossfader tension adjust to personalise to each DJ’s feel, while the TWELVE MKII expands DJ software platform controls to include Traktor and Virtual DJ as well as Serato DJ Pro, adding independent controls and a redesigned plunger-style Start/Stop button.

SEVENTY-TWO MKII || Premium 2-Channel Serato Scratch Mixer

Having won a variety of World and regional titles across the globe at the class leading main stage competitions like DMC, Red Bull 3Style & the Goldies, the SEVENTY-TWO has proven itself time after time in extreme high-pressure performances to give DJs the winning edge. With its robust solid build and reliability, paired with its unrivalled integration into Serato DJ Pro, it’s no surprise the SEVENTY-TWO is the champions’ choice of mixer.

The SEVENTY-TWO MKII carries all the world-class performance capabilities and components as the first version, but adds more winning features to take it one step further. First, an external crossfader tension adjust has been added, giving DJs full control over the feel of their crossfader. Additionally, the SEVENTY-TWO MKII is fitted with three new ultra-light MAG FOUR faders. This new high-quality design is RANE’s lightest and smoothest fader yet. The SEVENTY-TWO MKII also allows DJs to customise the parameter controls to act as either Silent Cue, Instant Doubles or Sync control, while the DVS input option has been expanded to include the Aux input as well as the Phono/CD input for more flexible set ups.

SEVENTY-TWO MKII || Highlights

  • NEW – (3) MAG FOUR faders with reverse, contour and cut-in adjustment *
  • NEW – External and internal crossfader tension adjust controls
  • NEW – Toggle Instant Double / Silent Cue / Sync Controls *
  • NEW – Dual DVS inputs – Aux or Phono/CD *
  • Solid steel construction—built like a tank for non-stop, heavy-duty use
  • 4.3-inch Touchscreen for moving wave display, FX control, song selection and user customisations
  • Dual Flex FX engines, one for each channel
  • Advanced Serato control: Chain-integrated Software Effect plus one internal Flex Effect per channel
  • Dual USB connections for DJ handoffs
  • 16 Akai MPC-style performance pads, independent mode controls per deck.
  • Two microphone inputs – combo Neutrik, on/off, tone, mic/line level switches
  • RCA session Inputs/outputs, balanced XLR, Main Out, balanced ¼-inch, Booth Out
  • USB controller inputs for RANE TWELVE Battle Controller
  • Serato DJ Pro DVS license, Pitch n Time plus Serato DVS Vinyl included

* These features will be available on the original SEVENTY-TWO in the next firmware update including the ability to purchase and install MAG FOUR faders.

All information subject to change rane.com   

TWELVE MKII || Multi-Platform, Legacy Control

RANE’s TWELVE MKII is next evolution in turntable controllers. A simple, yet hugely powerful motorised DJ control system. The TWELVE MKII has all the characteristics and simplicity of a traditional turntable, but without the hassle of fragile needles and skipping tone arms. The TWELVE MKII delivers a true vinyl-like experience to keep DJs grounded in the art of DJing while allowing them to take full advantage of the creative performance options available in today’s digital world.

The TWELVE MKII makes its mark by expanding its control possibilities to Traktor and Virtual DJ users via USB Midi or DVS Audio, or a hybrid of both, in addition to the previously supported Serato DJ Pro. Add in more navigation, instant doubles control and a new plunger-style Start/Stop button, the TWELVE MKII broadens its legacy control. The vinyl experience is also fully customisable by adding your favourite slipmat. With the TWELVE MKII, the DJ can scratch and play with all the direct spontaneity and creativity of a turntablist, but with the precision, repeatability and durability of the best digitally-based solutions. The TWELVE MKII is the very best of both. And with its all-metal body, the TWELVE MKII is built like a tank, but has all the agility needed to compete on world stages. There is simply nothing else like it, anywhere.

TWELVE MKII || Highlights

  • * NEW * DVS/USB MIDI Control for Serato DJ Pro, Traktor and Virtual DJ
  • * NEW * OLED Screen, Control Selection & BPM display
  • * NEW * Navigation control: Scroll/Load, Back & Instant Doubles
  • * NEW * New plunger-style Start/Stop button
  • Full 12-inch motorised platter to control playback
  • Traditional, familiar turntable layout
  • OLED screen display (BPM Display / Control Status)
  • Dual Mode Strip: Track Search and 8 Hot Cue triggers
  • 5.0 kfcm high-torque motor with Hi/Low torque adjust for more traditional setups
  • 4 decks of control so you can use one, two or more
  • Extreme precision—3600 ticks of platter resolution for seamless performance
  • MIDI interface via USB that can be connected to the SEVENTY-TWO MKII or your computer
  • RCA output for DVS audio signals
  • 33 1/3 and 45 rpm platter speeds
  • 8/16/50% pitch with precise dual resolution slider
  • Top panel rotary and traditional Motor Off switch, allows traditional wind down effects

SEVENTY-TWO MKII || MSRP – £1749.99

TWELVE MKII || MSRP – £729.99

Both available globally in Q3-2020.

FULL PRICING FOR COMPLETENESS

SEVENTY-TWO MKII || Price – $1899 [US] // €1999.99 [EU] // £1,749.99 [UK]
TWELVE MKII || Price – $899 [US] // €849.99 [EU] // £729.99 [UK]

ABOUT THE RANE SEVENTY-TWO MKII

I’m not often lost for words. Indeed I’m doing my level best to optimise my usual profuse levels of verbiage. So I will keep this brief, which is probably a good thing.

I’ve spoken before about my time with Rane’s last versions of these units before returning them unreviewed. But the nutshell version was that I wasn’t happy with either, but the TWELVE especially underwhelmed and upset me, to the point of giving me an existential crisis, which is probably in part why DJWORX is winding up, but for all the right reasons.

Oh the irony — the Numark TTX inspired me in part to start skratchworx, and the Rane TWELVE has inspired me in part to go do something else. But I digress.

Looking at the Seventy-Two first —

  • NEW – (3) MAG FOUR faders with reverse, contour and cut-in adjustment *
  • NEW – External and internal crossfader tension adjust controls
  • NEW – Toggle Instant Double / Silent Cue / Sync Controls *
  • NEW – Dual DVS inputs – Aux or Phono/CD *

The asterisk is important —

* These features will be available on the original SEVENTY-TWO in the next firmware update including the ability to purchase and install MAG FOUR faders.

So the existing Seventy-Two will get firmware updates and should you wish you can update all your faders too. Honestly, despite the third party replacement sellers telling you that all Rane faders will break the first time you scratch, I’m not seeing many users complaining.

So this feels like a simple price reset exercise rather than bringing anything new. The existing Seventy-Two has been as low as £1450 in the UK if you shopped around. This new one will be £1750 in the UK.

It’s clear to me that if you already own a Seventy-Two then there no need to update unless you absolutely need tension control on the MAG FOUR faders. But I know some of you will be already be throwing your credit cards at the screen.

ABOUT THE RANE TWELVE

This has seen more of an update, but I’m still not a fan. All the things that disappointed me are still there, with little improvement of note. Sorry people – I just don’t understand the fuss and hype.

But there is one absolutely huge difference here, one that goes beyond what it brings to buyers. The Serato ecosystem has always been pretty closed, and for the TWELVE this has meant using it only with Serato DJ Pro and locking out other software users.

Rane Twelve MkII Serato DJ Pro DVS Traktor VirtualDJ

But the TWELVE MKII has opened right up with a DVS audio output option. Hidden away from view is a pair of RCA outputs that delivers timecode audio to Serato DJ Pro, VirtualDJ, and Traktor Pro. We media types have got links to the updated versions, but I haven’t got nor am I likely to get hardware to check it out. You’re still going to need to hook up via USB as well.

So Rane has now opened up their hardware to more than just Serato now. That’s quite an industry move, but I don’t see Serato being concerned. They’re still going to make as much money as before because their logo will still need to appear to have official support. The real winner is Rane as they now have additional income from the users of two other competitive software platforms. I’m not for a second saying sales will treble, but it’ll be more than with just Serato DJ Pro support.

The one thing I’m not clear on is if the software updates mean that the Seventy-Two MKII become Traktor and VirtualDJ DVS ready i.e. without having to plug the TWELVE MKIIs in and just use regular turntables. It would be something if the Seventy-Two suddenly became a multi-platform DVS mixer.

The obvious omission here is Pioneer DJ’s rekordbox. Possibly a brand-political move, but given that the DVS mode is pushing out a control signal, there’s an outside chance that it will work, albeit unofficially. Then again, rekordbox is unofficially quite open anyway, so it may work but you’ll be on your own.

Like the Seventy-Two MKII, I see this as a non-essential purchase for existing users. People who already have them are almost certainly in the Serato DJ Pro ecosystem, so the draw of DVS audio isn’t likely to be enough, nor is a tiny screen and a few extra controls. But for new buyers, the market has just opened right up. Rane now has the potential to attract so many new users to the platform. We’ll have to wait and see how well it works with the others.

SUMMING UP

Being more update than anything, there’s not a huge amount to get excited about. The Seventy-Two is more or less the same apart from new faders that nobody asked for. The TWELVE MKII (should have called it TWELVE.2) is still more or less the essence as the original.

The real news for me is opening up to other software. That’s a strong move for Rane and a great move for buyers too. But more for Rane because the TWELVE MKII’s earning potential is now exponentially more than before.

Despite still not ticking my boxes, floating my boat, or some other euphemism, this is a great setup for new buyers or existing users of other software. It’s definitely a move in the right direction for the whole industry.

THE BOTTOM LINE

Available Q3 (aka soon), the Seventy-Two MKII will be $1899, €1999.99/£1,749.99. And the TWELVE MKII will be $899/€849.99/£729.99. I would however keep an eye out for retailers discounting the originals heavily if they have any left. Just haggle, because there was a two for one deal for a long time.

 

  1. As Lauryn Hill said in the track Lost Ones: “Everything You did has already been done” The DVS feature, is very much the same feature that Denon brought with the 3700 and the little S1200 decks and later the 3900 decks https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/99bdd759a8766ba73687529eef25bf48d66b317f00207a7334a24d8d926fbe68.jpg which they called “Hybrid Midi”. You could choose internally generated control signals for different DVS systems ranging from 2.0kHz, 1.2kHz, 3.0kHz without having to use control CDs and still get midi functionality for the controls via the USB connection. (Picture from Denondj.com)

    1. You do realize that Rane and Denon are now the same company right? They aren’t hiding that it is the same. They are counting on you to know it. It isn’t that it is unoriginal, it is that it is in a brand that you are actually likely to buy.

  2. I’d be very interested in full size motorized jogs and this mixer set up if it was ditching the laptop. For now, I’ll stick with my small non motorized player/ standalone xdj-rx2. Prime isn’t an alternative for me, I’m not feeling the engine software.

  3. this i just a controller aka a slave device.

    why not put a tonearm on so people will have the freedom to actually play without a laptop.
    any software compatibilty is not really an upgrade it means still a slave but to more corperate systems.

    Pretty sure a collab with Jesse Dean might be a true upgrade.

    1. Already prototyped. No idea what happened to it. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=785356121662046

      I suspect that buyers for Twelves buy them precisely because they don’t want a tonearm, and already have turntables anyway.

      Hybrid units have been successfully created in the past. Look at the Numark X2. The Gemini CDT-05 even had a removable tonearm. Loud voices online said they wanted it, but sales simply didn’t back it up. And I suspect it would be the same story all over again with an updated hybrid.

    2. Jerry rigged a jesse dean tonearm and pt01 preamp to the MK1. The results were not the greatest. If you are looking for a hybrid turntable, go after the Reloop RP8000. It will more than get you sorted.

  4. I would have rather seen cue buttons as opposed to the slider, but as a device meant to be paired with scratch mixers that have buttons I can understand the omission. The timecode output is a huge step forward toward increasing venue installs that have DVS DJ’s in mind.

      1. The truth is that a real turntable with built-in MIDI controls, DVS and HID doesn’t yet exist : would be best of both worlds.

        1. If it was built, it would cost too much for anyone to buy. Then folks would assume that nobody wanted it, when it was just a cost issue.

          Imagine if this 12 cost $399. It would be everywhere.

          1. If they release a 6 or 7 inch version with the same feature set (including the motorised jog, multi-software and DVS support) for that price, it will quickly become a standard (Rane Six/Seven ?)

            Then they can bring the full vinyl turntable/controller hybrid Twelve mk3 for just less than 1K. This one, if well built, would probably have me finally replacing my Technics.

            With those two products they would be covering the whole modular DJing market and probably would kill the CD for good, as if it never existed.

          2. the rane 12 is waaaaaaay to expensive being a slave device without the freedom to ditch the laptop.

            should be around 400 for what it does.

  5. I love it.
    DVS is awesome feature
    Love the groves in the jog wheel. I begged for grooves like that on the scs4dj but hourihane wouldnt do it.

    I dont like the cue buttons. The on/off switch is stupid.

    I guess I’ll help you again chris, although our accounts are woefully out of balance my friend.(not so much as a thankyou)

    You need a mixer/battery that is the computer and can power the deck, too.
    Just ditch thE jog on the prime go

    1. ….Hourihane had zero to do with the jog wheel grooves, and you two didn’t talk. I appreciate you not insulting me in this, but John is no longer alive to defend himself so please don’t throw shade.

      Normally I wouldn’t even respond but seriously, this is a line I have to draw Steve. I wish you no ill will, just please let the guy rest.

        1. Yay, you can bring up a paint job Hanpin controller I worked on in 2011. I also did the mappings myself, which is more than most product managers actually do, but whatever. That was ten years ago. Now if you want to insult my work, sure, go ahead, but I’m not going to let you simultaneously insult my friend who has passed away while simultaneously taking away from my work in the same sentence. You were the most passionate beta tester that I had on scs.4dj, and I’ll very happily tell anyone this. The fact remains however that this was the one project you and I worked on together. You can insult me however you want, but I’m not insulting the stuff you built or drew. I literally told you to not insult my friend who can’t defend himself or his decisions, and even if he were alive he couldn’t because it wasn’t his decision in the first place. Take that as you will, and I’m being sincere in saying that I wish you the best.

          1. Are you mental?
            “Defend” what?
            He told me, about grooves on jog “not going to happen”

            Jeez luise, grooves are better, i knew it then. I know it now.

            Shit, you’d love the replacement vinyls I’ve made for my 5500s and 3900s. I got the real future ish, now.

            Stop stressin. You gonna hire mark to help you with pio, right? Then relax dude.

            We ain’t competing (Unless Mr Odonnell comes to his senses and puts Stanton in MY midas touch hands)

            1. You are blaming him for something that you don’t like when it literally wasn’t even on his radar. I remember when the decision was made to not do it, and I don’t even know when you would have talked to him, or what he would even have said if you had talked to him that would have made you even think he cared. That is why I’m pissed off. If you want to blame someone, blame me. I’ll even give you that it wasn’t my brightest decision, but the reason why it pisses me off is that he literally can’t even defend himself because he is not alive anymore. Have some respect dude.

              If you and I competed it would be awesome. The industry is too small. I don’t care about that. You hit a really sensitive spot as, while John and I had a few pretty bad spots, in the end he was my mentor and friend. The products he worked on didn’t have mistakes. So please, if you want to call me an idiot for the decision I made, go right ahead. I won’t even fight you. There are at least ten more that were wrong in hindsight. Just leave John out of it.

  6. I’ve never understood the apathy this product gets here.

    I’ve been reading this blog for a LONG time. Since the Final Scratch days. I cannot tell you how many times this EXACT product has been requested.

    “A turntable without the tonearm” , “plays timecode out of it’s output so it works w/ everything”, “a modern scs1”, “a 12 inch numark v7”.

    I have no doubt that the comments section of this blog is partially responsible for this products existence.

    The nightclub I spun at pre-covid had the mk1’s installed, and I very much enjoyed using them. I cannot make sense of the apathy.

    1. bc it’s just a numark CDX in a new shell, with 1/4 the features, at a higher price….. and its layout makes it probably the worst designed DJ kit on the entire market. It’s a cheap money grab from In-Music, plain and simple.

      1. But it’s not a numark cdx at all. It doesn’t play cd’s. The CDX doesnt output timecode or interface natively with serato.

        It’s a 12 inch Stanton SCS 1. And if you don’t feel like dealing with the teething issues of Phase, it’s a perfectly viable alternative to timecode.

        Having timecode outputs makes life REALLY simple for those of use who show up to the club / bar with just our laptop. The combination of a 70 / 72 and a twelve provides a turnkey dns solution for ALL dj software, which has never been done.

        I don’t have to modify anything in the software and I don’t have to unplug a single cable from the back of the mixer, I don’t need to bring carts and timecode, and I can go on after a serato user (i use traktor) seamlessly.

        I don’t get the apathy.

    2. If it had been a 12” V7, I’d have been much happier. Pitch in a better place, proper hot cue buttons where you can actually reach them, a sync button, pitch bend buttons, and no bloody pointless on/off tower relic that just gets in the way.

      They had so much from inMusic’s past and present products to pull from, as well as current Denon DJ models too. And what they produced in my opinion wasn’t even close to what it had the potential to be. Yes it works and I’m happy that some love them. But I simply cannot get past how much better it could have been.

      1. Really tempted to mod one of these up as a portable, but still wouldn’t beat my batt-op 39s

        ps. Dont blame me for that other mess,?drew be trippin

    1. Midi always falters if you push it hard enough, both literally and figuratively

      An analog to just reports where it is, regardless

  7. Quite frankly, I don’t understand who the Seventy Two is for. Top of the line 4 channel mixers still offer external FX routing, but sadly even the planets most expensive battle mixer’s only differentiating factor to the lower tier is a laggy screen…

    And about the cross-platform compatibility, as I understand, both new Rane mixers are class compliant, so it makes sense that it would work on open platforms.

    I wish there still were a full-blown battle mixer that would have every possible creative option covered. Sure, I’m in the minority of a niche product segment, but still have to rely on a 15 year old mixer for my pedals and loopers.

    1. Thou shall have no other mixers before me, because i need your $2000
      Thou shalt not question my mixers

  8. That is one expensive turntable-that-cant-play-records. Somebody should do a tonearm addon for it. :-)

    Cheaper to buy a turntable (with arm) and MWM Phase.

    1. It needs an addon alright; 3 in fact;
      1- cf
      2 – engine
      3 – battery
      Worlds sickest portable scratcher

      So let it be written
      So let it be done
      -EF Hutton

    2. I second that. Phase has become a great product.
      And it’s even getting better with Serato HID (which is coming in a future update).

  9. The biggest question is who is this even for this year? I’ll be expecting some sort of deal with the Twelve MK-II soon unless they want them to be collecting dust until who knows when. Additionally, is there someone the Seventy-Two is for who just can’t do it with the Seventy for cheaper? Just wondering.

  10. This is what I can define “honest” review !
    Thanks a lot, this is why you are still the best opinion’s website outside. Thanks thanks thanks !!

  11. Can’t understad why the soo smart designers not making an axial-flux motor for a turntable?
    So the platter itself could become the motor itself.
    Required a disc, holes, circular magnets and coils.
    Reducing weight, increasing torque and lower cogging, wow and flutter.
    Also easier to mass produce it.
    Not that difficult. Just needs to use one’s head instead of wearing it on the neck only.
    Why is it so difficult to make a modular design?
    Additional:
    -tonearm
    -Drum pads
    -Touch screen
    -Battery option
    -Motorised fader
    -Cpu for standalone
    I have these requested about 10-15 yeras ago.

    It would have the same impact as AMD’s chiplet design.
    User costumization possibility is THE key for a successful pruduct in these ages.

    1. An axial flux motor at this size that meets its current needs would be deeper than the standard turntable housing leaving less room for sound dampening and clearance. If someone were to build a turntable that was about 1-2 inches taller than club spec, it could be done.

      1. An axial flux motor can be VERY thin at this size. Especially at this low required torque.
        If the magnet rings are placed at the edge of the 12inch platter, the coils can be placed at the bottom.
        Axial fux motor is way more efficient than the ones used in todays turntables.

        1. Doing so at the edge would allow the needed space for placement, but I wonder if platter vertical movement during scratching would cause any issues with returning to correct rpm.

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