OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The state of play of Vestax from Mr Shiino

OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The state of play of Vestax from Mr Shiino

OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The state of play of Vestax from Mr Shiino
This is Vestax HQ before the closure, with Mike Trix from Vestax UK, and Hidesato Shiino.

Via the stpvestax.com website, it would seem that the leaked rebirth of Vestax is actually true, but it’s not quite what most of us expected. A statement arrived on my FB timeline today, but I was on a plane. So here is the official word from Hidesato Shiino, the owner of the Vestax brand:

VESTAX, a company I established on November 8, 1977, had been listed as bankrupt in December 2014. No one knew the truth as to how on earth this had happened. But as its Founder, I now have the duty and obligation to report it to all.

The VESTAX Group was running very smoothly up to 2002 – a profitable and debt-free enterprise. I decided to retire and leave the management and operations of the company and its products to a younger, “Under 40yo” generation in April of that year. What drove me to move on was that I had become disillusioned by the vulgarity of the “money game”, and how it was depriving the human spirit of manufacturing-creativity. I felt the shallowness, and an emphasis on price over innovative technologies.

“Manufacturing requires boundless passion, and a person must be driven, and aggressively and progressively create and produce – by inspiration and perspiration, while learning by trial and error.”

This is the motto I have aspired to in manufacturing. I had been working hard to convey such thinking to my employees to focus on ideas not products, and that it was become an era of no interest in people. It was difficult. In other words, a “money game” type manufacturing industry began to be the popular business form.

Some three years after I left the company, talented people started to leave one after the other, and the manufacturing company began to collapse. After five years, the constitution of the company had completely changed, with scandals involving its proprietor, and interest in the company began to vanish. “The times they are a-changing” – economic primacy eliminated human dignity. Such was my feeling. Toshiba, Sharp, Yamaha – Japanese companies once known for their specialized fields – also changed to fit this global attitude, and lost sight in their direction. Surprisingly, Sony also followed this pattern. It is unfortunate that the no one understands the mission statement written at the establishment of Sony by its Founder Mr Ibuka.

It is a style that permeates the world, and companies that manufacture their own line seem to be disappearing. The trend now is low-end disposable products have flooded the market and on the other hand small groups crowd around ridiculously expensive goods. Therefore over these last 15 years, I can see that the identity of this industry has completely changed, though this has no relationship with the damage to my own company.

For some years the management position was “We can’t make something from scratch” as “new products can’t be sold”. As a result, most people left the company and disappeared. Upon the company closing, a check was made on product-quality, and was found to be quite inferior when compared with the 2002 output. The company closure is still being deliberated at the Tokyo District Court, and is not yet concluded.

And I sincerely apologize to the many DJ’s who have endorsed and still love VESTAX, as well as to those who gave great efforts to develop and sell our products in the DJ world for this strange ending. Away from the company for 13 years, I entrusted the management, but they did not perform for you as I hoped. Everyone regarded VESTAX as a company with strong sense and that as a Japanese company it would not fall to novelty. I think it lost sight of its core manufacturing purpose and direction, as I have described above.

I would like to send this heartfelt message to everyone, to spread to the DJ World that I seriously considered restarting the VESTAX of 2002, but large-scale mass production of new units is not possible. However, I have decided to release and sell the first of a range of products from March 2016, as I have sourced the production talent of 2002 levels. I plan to produce limited quantities (10~20 per month) for direct sale to end-users.

While my purpose is not commercial-level output, I will release a Mixer rebranded as STP/VESTAX with our VESTAX image, in order to support and keep our global VESTAX fans, and I hope it will receive strong, warm encouragement. There is significant experienced thought behind the development and production of this mixer, as top-quality sound has been the priority behind its development. It is also matched with a distinct yet subtle design. In 2016 we will sequentially announce a range of new acoustic products such as a power amplifier, signal devices, turntable, SP system, and pre-amplifiers. We think that no matter how the music world is changing, there will always be real die-hard music lovers.

Hoping for your understanding and future support,

Vestax Corporation Founder: Hidesato Shiino

THE NUTSHELL VERSION

For all sorts of reasons, mainly focussing on the bottom line instead of being passionate and amazing, Vestax went to the wall. But Mr Shiino still has something to say with the Vestax brand and will be putting out strictly limited runs of premium quality product direct to end users. Mainly pro audio stuff, but also a new mixer i.e. the one we posted previously. This will start March 2016, so not long to wait.

This is pure Vestax of old. I suspect that the majority of those units will stay in Japan and will be caring for the home market. We used to moan when Vestax made crazy stuff to suit the Japanese market, but this was often when they were at their best. We have our fingers crossed that the Vestax brand will once again gather momentum and  become a player in the DJ market once again. Given that we’re neck deep in me-too controllers, some original Vestax thinking would be very cool indeed.

  1. This kinda sounds like Technics new vision and re-entry back into the market centered around limited, highend audio equipment. I guess we’ll have to see how this pans out.

          1. It’s not a secret, lol, I worked for Beats/Apple until winter. Moved on this year to SubPac-more in line with my core values, and small enough that I’m more than a number.

            As far as the under 40 work ethic, 8 split the difference at 35. I work like an older man but have the dreams of youth I guess. The issue I see, for what little it’s worth, is that the younger set want to be wonder boys, and can’t limit thieves to a few core specialties. I’m a firm believer in that everyone has the ability to do 3 core jobs well, (main, and two smaller jobs for company growth and personal enrichment/intellectual stimulation). Anything else provides noise that takes away from the core job, causing all work to suffer. I admire the drive, but the artisan is a dying breed because of it.

  2. This is great news! Mr Shiino and I have some similarities, definitely not my rowdiness :-) The world is a better place with Vestax at the table, in whatever form. The tools to manufacture prototypes or small quantities are amazing. They will be able to create some fresh designs without too much of a risk…If you are reading Mr Shiino, I am at your service. I have some Futuristic Slipmat Designs for Vestax to start off with and it would be an honor to help bring the prestige back to the Vestax name.

    1. It seems to me, that one of the sadder and damn near shameful chapters of the story of djing, is you no longer having the resources of a company behind you.
      the new vestax would be very lucky to have you as part of it’s team.

  3. Hidesato Shiino = the OG Mary Sue! God DAMN glad he’s back! Let’s go with a ISP Quadraphonic mixer built into a QFO!!! Hopefully not, because that would just mean all the nerds would circle jerk to that. For real a new high level two channel would be dope!

  4. Did he just say that hiring complacent, go through the motions, more concerned with their check than than their work employees played a major part in destroying his company?
    Thank you for being honest.
    I wrote in another story that these lousy employees were ruining companies, and although I’m not happy to read this, it is comforting to know I was on the right track.
    In Italian, the word is “Basta” it means “enough!” Enough bs already. Let’s all decide to get talented, dedicated, driven, and passionate people back in the mix making quality products, with which we can build a thriving and inspiring culture. Let’s get djs back designing, refining, and selling these products we love, and remove the goofy millenials talking about “harnessing power tools” (like social media) out, out out out, get out of our culture, our stores and factories.
    If you’re not driven by the desire to make something good that lasts and enhances the user, we don’t need you.

    1. Not nearly that simple. Ever heard “never let the engineer design the product”? Never let the designer run the company. Brilliant men fail when put out of their specialist lane, and, knowing the bigger story (btw, welcome back home Mr. Shino!!!) it was putting too much trust in people who were great at certain things and expecting them to be superb at all.there is no such thing as a wonder boy.

      1. At the end of the day, good products make good customers, we don’t need a bigger story than that. Everything else is convoluted mess designed to hide waste and fraud.

        1. The weird thing is, the product quality suffered because of bad factory choices, but keep in mind that a lot of the Japanese factories that made the classic Vestax products were literally washed away to sea. They had no options. They didn’t know how to reconcile the dreams products with the bill payers, and made truly poor fiscal decisions that sadly at the time were well intentioned, but poor for everyone if they took 2 minutes to meditate and think without the weight of fear. The people at the helm when the company sank were the same people behind the products held up as Vestax’s finest, but the guiding spiritual center of Shino was gone, and that absence cost them. Sometimes a story is more sad because it is all bad, yet you understand every “why”.

          1. Agreed.

            Funny as I stumbled across an article from 2011 recently regarding the quality of the Japanese audio market from the big players and how they have shifted focus to give us lower quality products that lack their once reputable stance in the world audio rankings. This can be applied to all ends of the Japanese electronics industry and shows us what happens when companies chase the “me too” option.

            http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/how-can-30-year-old-receivers-sound-better-than-new-ones/

    2. “Let’s get djs back designing, refining, and selling these products we love”.

      I just hope Denon DJ are focussing on this now they are about to release what looks like a genuinely amazing controller with the MCX8000.

      Denon DJ: “We are DJs making products for DJs, and we are carrying the tradition of Denon DJ; High Quality Build, High Quality Sound and gear that feels great to use.”

      https://serato.com/forum/discussion/1544893#10629516

  5. This is why all my old vestax gear still works fine and any modern stuff doesn’t, it’s the same way with Akai, my 16 year old mpc2000 is hammered and still works great but all my friends than own newer models mpc1000’s, 2500’s etc have all had problems with them after a fraction of the usage. This goes for the music industry in general too both major label and independent, output is high but quality control is way down low. I hope Mr Shiino is able to get back to producing products he is proud to stand behind and that the Vestax name goes back to being the innovative and trend setting company it used to be, albeit on a smaller scale (which is better imo)

  6. Back in like 97, I had a vestax mixer with wood side panels, but I can’t remember the model and can’t find a picture or any info. Does anyone remember, know what it might be?

  7. always had a lot of love for vestax mixers, owned pcv275r, pmc46 mk2, PMC26 limited edition , R1, R3 (sold it on, could’nt turn down the offer i got for it)

  8. What I would like to see Vestax make, is a modern, high quality remake of the PMC-20SL, exclusively made for DJ Krush, with his input. To honour the legendary status they both have, and to what they both have meant for Japanese music culture.

  9. Mark,

    I know you’re busy and Mr. Shiino is very busy as well, but could you please, please drop him a line about updating the firmware for the VCI-400 to get the DVS upgrade from Serato? In this Serato forum link here:

    https://serato.com/forum/discussion/1403609#10104257

    a Serato support rep indicates that a firmware upgrade by Vestax would make the VCI-400 DVS ready. See the quoted text below:

    “We tried it, and it worked to some extend but it’s not good enough how
    it is to make it a Serato DVS Expansion Pack ready device.

    The EQ’s are applied to the incoming signals, so if you EQ or filter your song with the mixer,

    it will have an impact on tracking quality. E.g. you kill the mids and
    highs, playing only the low frequencies -> you are left with almost
    no DVS tracking.

    Vestax would have to change that with a firmware update, so that Serato
    DJ with DVS Expansion Pack would always see the full control signal,
    regardless of the EQ and hardware filters position.”

    End quote

    Pretty please Mark?

    RD

    1. This. I think legacy support is critical to mending the relationship with current fans. They essentially fell off the face of the planet with a bunch of current products in market that could use some firmware TLC on several models. A lot of folks went without support channels from software to hardware as well and those should be re-established. Anything new to market and my first thought as a current owner would be ‘Yeah and what about support if they fall off again?’. There needs to be some confidence rebuilt here. They dropped the ball on us. You cant pen a letter chastising lack of principles and not demonstrate some of your own. Weather it was your company or not, it’s your brand. If you want to keep it you need to court the 2002-2014 customers left abandoned. That’s the principled thing to do.

      1. dVo,

        No, I think that you are right, ed on my readings over the years, the 380 was more popular than the 400. Would love to see the firmware update to both. UGH added a fantastic argument to my plea below.

        RD

    2. It doesn’t seem a trivial demand (without taking in consideration the fact Vestax as we known it has passed away) but it could be possible to make the “mod” oneself. If it is made like the usual vestax gear (modular pub) maybe it could be possible to change the order in the audio chain making the audio go inside the DAC and adjusting the EQ in later stage but it maybe suppose lost the “standalone mixer” full mode.

      Just wondering.

      1. Hey DL,
        I understand conceptually what you said, but I certainly do not have the programming skill or knowledge to know how easy it is to implement. I am hoping at this stage that Mark can pass on the message, including this thread so that maybe Mr. Shiino can make it happen. There are hundreds of people in the Serato forums who have been asking for this to happen, only to have Serato issue the response above.
        It would make many Vestax lovers happy, but if not, the next purchase may be a more mainstream controller that will continue to offer support.
        The VCI-380 and VCI-400 are such great pieces of kit. My 400 is continuing to go strong despite how many software upgrades to Serato, Traktor and Djay. The day Serato drops off official support, if the 400 is still going strong at that point I may have to consider moving to traktor full time instead of now and again.
        An updated firmware would a fitting last support gesture for two great controllers.

        1. I know I know… Not so difficult, not so easy… Maybe you could find the engineer who developed it and dare with her/him directly like mpc1000 jjOs developer…

          1. Hmm, might be a tall order. The other thing though is that Serato may require an official firmware in order to enable DVS on the 380 and 400. An ex vestax employee’s mod may not sit well with them. However, it could be a starting point…

  10. Soy fan, puede que no numero uno pero si super fan de vestax, desde que comence en el mundo del dj, he visto con brillo en los ojos y deseo los equipos vestax soñando con ellos desde muy niño, hace poco por fin pude pagar un mini setup de vestax me gustaria comentar algo, primero que deseo que no se cambie el nombre de vestax, segundo que se de soporte a los equipos antiguos y tercero que no se convierta en tan exclusivo por precios muy elevados ni complejidades de equipo, vestax es para batalla para el dj real, pero que no olvide que el tiempo avanza, con el la tecnologia, gran aliada y que deseamos implemente, larga vida a vestax rey de la batalla…psdt: hasta hice diseños en bocetos de giradiscos mixers y controladoras del afan que tengo por esta compañia, saludos.
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    I’m a fan , you may not number one but if super fan of vestax , since I started in the world of dj , I have seen with glow in the eyes and wish the teams vestax dreaming about them since childhood , recently I could finally pay mini setup vestax I would like to say something , first I want the name of vestax , second support is of the old equipment and third party does not become so exclusive for very high prices and complexity of equipment can not change , vestax is to battle for the real dj, but do not forget that time goes on, with technology, great ally and we want to implement , long live the king vestax battle … psdt : even made sketches designs in turntables and mixers controlling the zeal I have for this company , Greetings