Wrapping up Serato’s most significant announcement, let’s have a look at Rane’s offering for the all new Serato DJ. The Rane Sixty Four is to all intents and purposes a Rane Sixty Eight but reworked to integrate fully with Serato DJ. And although it may seem to be the same at first glance, there are notable differences, which we’ll get to later.
Before that, have a butcher’s* at the Rane words:
Rane Sixty-Four mixer powered by Serato DJ’s DVS
Mukilteo, WA, USA & Auckland, New Zealand
Rane and Serato continue their ten-year partnership with Rane’s professionally-crafted, art-expanding instruments integrated with Serato’s world-famous digital vinyl emulation software.
Rane is pleased to introduce the Rane Sixty-Four mixer for Serato DJ software. This bundled combination is uniquely qualified to meet the mixing needs of a wide variety of DJ genre. It is equally accommodating whether you’re mixing analog, DVS, digital or a combination of these. The Sixty-Four is the ultimate plug-and-play mixer, allowing you to take remixing and music production to a new level.
- Tight integration with Serato DJ software provides intuitive control of Serato DJ features like Libraries, Sync, Slip, Jump-to-loop and Samples, all without taking your eyes off the mixer or packing extra controllers.
- Quickly and easily add and remove audio channels from the FlexFx loop to gain access to six built-in effects, post-fader Serato DJ iZotope effects and an external effects processor, in any combination!
- With two computers connected, simply switch a mixer source selector to instantly assign audio and MIDI to the desired USB port. Each port features a 22-channel soundcard, providing the resource you need for music production, remixing and routing Serato DJ iZotope effects to your post-fader mix.
Keep up with what this all means to the Art of DJing at Rane’s DJ Blog –dj.rane.com/blog
Ships late October, 2013.
See us at stand B47 at BPM, September 14, 15, & 16, 2013, in Birmingham UK
* It has been commented that non-native English speakers love my writing because I throw some curveballs and make them reach for the dictionary and thesaurus. For those people, this particular moment is called Cockney rhyming slang. Check this for a translation. And consider this your English lesson for today.
Now, this PR doesn’t really say a lot right now other than “hey we’ve got a new mixer”. So I fired off an email to our friends at Rane asking what the specific differences are. Back came this list:
- From a feature standpoint, the Sixty-Four loses the SPDIF inputs that the Sixty-Eight has.
- Digital I/O for session in and out.
- Indicators on each of the control strips to show which decks are assigned to that strip.
- The USB assignment is now handled on the mixer instead of in software so that it is much more intuitive for hand-off/DJ Change over (like the Sixty-Two)
- Now able to send separate midi messages to each USB port
- Uses ASIO/Core Audio drivers which are multi-client (can have multiple midi devices connected). Also supports midi stop/start messages and midi beat clock. Midi follows USB assignment.
- Improved Hardware effects
So it’s a matter of a few lessons being learned from the Sixty Eight, as well as making the Sixty Four more flexible and focussed on Serato DJ rather than Scratch Live. And given that the Sixty Eight is Scratch Live based, I would imagine that the Sixty Four is really seen as a replacement for the Sixty Eight, which will get updated in due course for Serato DJ of course, but it’s sold as a Scratch Live mixer, and being discontinued will almost certainly signal the end of the Sixty Eight.
The Obvious Pioneer DJM-900SRT Comparison
Being announced at the same time as the Rane Sixty Four, the Pioneer DJM-900SRT has been launched as a Serato DJ mixer. But for me, there is one significant difference — the Rane Sixty Four is a fully integrated Serato DJ controller and mixer, whereas the DJM-900SRT is simply a 4 channel mixer capable of running Serato DJ without an audio interface. It’s an important differentiation, and one that will guide a lot of people’s buying decision beyond the obvious features. This is almost certainly the key driver behind the introduction of the Pioneer DDJ-SP1.
Putting a Sixty Four into club over a Pioneer mixer is always going to be a tough proposition though. Pioneer’s dominance is such that anything but a DJM in a booth is likely to be greeted with trepidation. That said, the Rane Sixty Four does have one very compelling feature that is key in the digital age — dual USB ports. With the 900SRT, there will still be a gap of sorts that has to be filled with regular music while one DJ unplugs and the other plugs in. With the Sixty Four however, it’s a considerably simpler affair. It really depends on if swapping over really is considered to be a royal pain without dual USB ports.
From a price perspective, the DJM-900SRT comes in at $2299/£1799 whereas the Rane Sixty Four hits the $2199/£2199 level. The disparity in pricing is quite understandable — Rane mixers are made in the USA, so the tag on their home turf is going to be more competitive than product imported into the US. In Europe however, they do have to deal with shipping and regional import duties, which is reflected in the 1:1 dollar/pound pricing. So regionally, Rane will have the upper hand price-wise on Pioneer, but outside of the states, it’s a very different picture.
Brand Wars
Aside from obvious feature considerations, there are other factors that may well come into play. While Pioneer is a trusted, respected, and industry standard brand, Rane is a highly aspirational product that is eternally entwined in the DNA of Serato as a business. Without the decade-long partnership, there would be no Serato DJ for all manufacturers to tap into, which means that Rane have a unique in-depth knowledge of Serato, their customers, and their needs. I’d say many of those customers need a Rane controller, but I digress.
For this reason, Rane is likely to garner a lot of loyalty. I also feel that region will play a part in this too, with the US probably seeing the Sixty Four doing proportionally better in the states because of the traditionally strong market share of Scratch Live. And factor in the previously mentioned price points, Rane are likely to do better in their back yard than anywhere else.
Summing Up
The Rane Sixty Four can rightly be pitched as the ultimate Serato DJ mixer right now (not too hard in a market of 2). It’s way more geared towards Serato DJ, and offers some killer features including dual USB, which some people consider essential. But is that enough? Is Pioneer’s grip on the 4 channel market so tight that Rane will struggle to make inroads? Time will tell, and boy are these bloody interesting times we’ve just woken up to.
THIS WORX!!!!
André Pio
Soundcard and audio comparison hardly needed.
that is one hell of mixer i think i would go with rane just based for hoe long i had a 56
plus im abit hard on all fader as its just part of my style of mixxing
Wow, £2000 and the mic inputs only have tone controls! That takes me back to the radios of the 70s. :-)
No, you can route the mics to the effects as well.
The only thing that makes Rane look global, is the longterm relationship to Serato. And that´s it. This is just another mixer that focus on the domestic market. Its too expensive for a market of a non-industrial country and it looks way to complicated to be a clubstandard. And even if they focus on being a premium mixer brand, why is there nothing like a entrylevel item that would earn so much from that strong brand name, such as the Allen&Heath Xone:22? And btw. where is the fitting controller for the transport section in Serato DJ?
I take it you’ve never owned a RANE battle mixer. There is a reason for that price. Built like a tank, durability, superb sound, excellent support, best faders in the industry, best integration with Serato, etc.Having said that, I still think the price is ridiculous but look at the alternative to get SSL.
$1,699.99 Pioneer DJM900 Nexus (Good 4 Channel Mixer)
$899.99 Rane SL4 (Still a dumb price, probably can get it cheaper)
$99.99 Novation Dicers
$2,699.97 (and you still don’t have dedicated load, slip, roll, sampler buttons)
They do have an entry level mixer, it’s called the 61. A great mixer if you don’t want a Christmas Tree. If you do want all the functions at your fingertips instead of using the laptop, the 62 and 64 are for you.
Everything good about the 62 (#1 rated mixer) was put into the 64. The 68 is a major let down, mostly because of the rock hard buttons (which the 64 borrows the new improved buttons from the 62). Besides no Digital Ins, the 64 takes the best from the 68 and 62. I still don’t agree with the layout of the 64. In my book, a 3 channel mixer is all that is needed and the 62 has a 3rd channel for a volume and filter. Unfortunately, Scratch Live only uses this for the Sampler instead of a 3rd channel. Why Serato doesn’t have a instant MIDI double to a sampler is beyond me.
It has a SPDIF in /out
Yes, but that is for Session In/Out only. The 68 has 4 S/PDIF for inputs and time code. I use the Hybrid sound from my DN-S3700 into the S/PDIF 68 and it’s great. Lowest lat
You didn’t say that. You said it DOESNT have SPDIF….. when it does.
I said: “Besides no Digital Ins…”
= meaning multiple INS. It still doesn’t have that. I should have clarified “Timecode Support for Digital S/PDIF”. I will make sure to have this on my review.
Rane brought one by yesterday and its a great mixer. I agree with the price point being to high on a lot of their gear. However, they are no longer catering to the average DJ with these mixers. That’s what the controllers are for now. Rane has made it clear that they will not produce anything that may tarnish their reputation.
everything he said and double that on the support. I’ve sent my mixer back to rane and got in the same week! try that with Pioneer.
It must be getting harder and harder to sell any new mixers to clubs these days. More and more people bring their own controllers. The future booth will nothing more than a nice set of XLRs and RCAs ready to plug your controller of choice in (and the space to it so you aren’t CRANEing everything above the rusty old DJM with no fader caps — :). These things are really starting to push shit up a hill. Nice, but it’s a lot of cashola and you need to make a call to support either the germans or the kiwis.
kiwis just make the software, Rane is made in the USA, Pioneer is actually a japanese company, although I always thought the Mixers were from France or Germany for some reason…. point being roll with the Kiwis and USA or Japan and France/Germany lol
Im a bit frustrated as I just got a 68. Like seriously?
The 68 won’t be going anywhere for awhile. Don’t worry about it. And they will probably bring it up to date. They are updating the SL interfaces so it makes no sense not to update the 68.
the 68 is going to be Serato DJ compatible in Feb. I have already downloaded the software and all my music shows up just like it does in SL. LOVE my 68
Does anyone know if the 64 will support scratch live?
It will not.
Rane brought the 64 by yesterday and I’ll also be showcasing it at the 3AC festival this week in Atlanta.
The Rane 64 & New Serato DJ are absolutely BEASTLY!
1. Run 2 laptops with Serato…AND Traktor at the same time!!
2. Slip mode, roll loops, regular loops, & all 8 cues built in.
3. post fader efx, external efx send, aux input with effects, & filter
4. crazy fader curve and the faders feel GREAT….how ever the upfaders are to close
5. ZERO channel hum even at MAX VOLUME!!
6. Shift EFX functions
7. Full cut EQs
8. SYNC control from the mixer
9. External MIDI routing. So you can plug in other devices and still map them (like an X1 controller or a Nanopad)
10. 2 Mic channels that can be switched to Line inputs ANNNNDD one has Phantom power, so if you want to use it in the studio or radio station it’s got it covered!!
11. Use the EFX on the mics/line in as well!
12. Use the factory or save your OWN presets
13. INFINITE EFX!!
^^^Yes…I created a beat using infinite ECHO. Everything I did on the fly and it kept it in perfect timing. I then freed up my decks and freestyled over it. ABSOLUTELY SICK!
*****I think the price is ridiculous BUT Rane has made it clear they will only make the best gear. These mixers are geared at upper end professionals not the bar/wedding/bedroom DJs. The mixer is incredible quality, sounds great, and feels great.
Can you explain what you mean by running serato and traktor at the same time? How can you do that within the 64 besides running traktor into traktors interface and then into a channel input in the 64. There would be no way to control traktor on the 64. I hope I’m wrong.
Excellent Review & Comments all round…Everyone agrees that Rane products are pricey but as a long time user & owner let me tell you that the Support is unparalleled…Let me know when a Tech Rep from Pioneer calls you when you are setting up for a gig & having issues with the hardware…As far as the product been using the Sixty Two for a year now & there is no finer piece of equipment if you are a Serato SL user the integration is awesome & I haven’t had to physically touch my Macbook at a gig in that year because all the functionality is on the board…Unlike most when I walk in the booth & see the Pioneer set up it’s a bummer…