HELP: Identify this old school DJ mixer

While the DJ realm is becoming littering with an increasingly bewildering array of technology, some of us still have our eyes on the past. And the DJpedia Facebook group does a sterling job of chronicling old school DJ gear, especially mixers. But one has us all stumped — it’s in the Amphitheater (yes US spelling) scene at the end of iconic Hip Hop film Wild Style, where Grandmixer D. ST. (now DXT) can be seen cutting up Good Times.

I’ve lifted the clip and uploaded it but without sound. I’m not wanting to annoy anyone with copyright infringement, and frankly you don’t need the sound to see the mixer. Considerably more knowledgeable than myself have taken a look, but none of us can quite pinpoint the exact make and model. Calls are in to old school legends who were connected to the Wild Style film to see if it can be identified.

wild style mixer

The logo is unclear, but it doesn’t seem to tally up with any established brands of the time like Gemini, Numark, Radio Shack, Pyramid etc. But the general layout and wooden case suggest a Numark DM-1600 or similar, so I’ve put a call into Numark, but I’m not hopeful. Gemini — is it one of yours?

I’m certain there’s someone sat reading this who is almost certainly looking at this very mixer across the room. If you are, please put us out of our misery.

  • Dee Jay Cheese might know.

  • Dee Jay Cheese might know.

  • Melos ?

  • Melos ?

  • may be a gemini

  • may be a gemini

  • Fidelity ?

  • Or maybe Jamez Gant can ask Patti Astor.

  • @gearjunkies looks like an audio shack special

  • @gearjunkies looks like an audio shack special

  • it looks like a pyramid mixer

    • I thought of Pyramid, but I can’t find one that matches. Close but no cigar.

  • the best pic i can find

  • Is that a hifi turntable?

  • Reminiscent of the older “clubman” mixers

  • Reminiscent of the older “clubman” mixers

  • The word at the top looks like it says Pyramid then maybe the model number after. It also looks like other pyramid mixers. Maybe a Russian or other county mixer?

  • The word at the top looks like it says Pyramid then maybe the model number after. It also looks like other pyramid mixers. Maybe a Russian or other county mixer?

  • The word at the top looks like it says Pyramid then maybe the model number after. It also looks like other pyramid mixers. Maybe a Russian or other county mixer?

  • realistic?

  • realistic?

  • realistic?

  • hi mark ive owned 74 mixers in 29 years demo’ed loads more and sold many more in the dj shop where i worked very rare im stumped…. i am at tha mo but im pretty sure its deffo a gemini the markings around the faders eq even the cross fader writing at the bottom all classic gemini even the wooden surround very pmx2200 i think the actual logo is where hes hand is bottom right and at the top i think its the model name…This will be doing my head in great post though !!

  • hi mark ive owned 74 mixers in 29 years demo’ed loads more and sold many more in the dj shop where i worked very rare im stumped…. i am at tha mo but im pretty sure its deffo a gemini the markings around the faders eq even the cross fader writing at the bottom all classic gemini even the wooden surround very pmx2200 i think the actual logo is where hes hand is bottom right and at the top i think its the model name…This will be doing my head in great post though !!

  • Is it RadioShack?

  • It looks like the old Radio shack mixer realistic.

  • It looks like the old Radio shack mixer realistic.

  • Try a US company that made but wasn’t focused on DJ mixers – Peavey had mixers with similar EQs.

  • I think its RadioShack also.

  • Project Tempo

    Is it not flashes custom build?

    Cannibalised out of radio shack parts?

    • Bones

      It’s not a realistic, crossfader had VU’s and the one without didn’t have a crossfader

  • Chris Roman from Numark has got back to me and said it’s one of theirs. Bearing in mind that he was in his late teens when this was out, he’s not sure of the model. I’ll wait for him to confirm with a model number first.

    In the meantime, the hunt continues…

    • Davendiva

      Check out goldie’s inner city life vid, I sure he uses something sim alar.

  • tony corless

    I was thinking something like GLI but can’t match it to a picture on the net.

  • Looks a bit Tandy to me,

  • Looks a bit Tandy to me,

  • I’d say Numark. Maybe Radio shack

  • I’d say Numark. Maybe Radio shack

  • mscottm

    It looks like a Tandy (Radio Shack brand), but Numark did have similar looking consoles in the 80’s.

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/camcorders-video-editing/283251d1325245496-alternative-ways-capture-audio-amateur-documentary-mixer2.jpg

  • looks close to that radio shack realistic mixer but it’s got EQ’s or somethin too

  • looks close to that radio shack realistic mixer but it’s got EQ’s or somethin too

  • nem0nic

    The double faders and the headphone section are straight from GLI. But no logo and no VU meters.

  • There are so many that are so close. But nothing confirmed yet.

  • nem0nic

    OK, I’ve nailed it down to a Numark Studio Master Control Center, but the specific model number eludes me. the whole bottom half looks like a DM1600, but the top half is all wrong.

  • Patti Astor do you have any idea which mixer this is ???

  • Patti Astor do you have any idea which mixer this is ???

  • Patti Astor do you have any idea which mixer this is ???

  • Theodore Livingston – you were there. Any idea what mixer this is?

  • Theodore Livingston – you were there. Any idea what mixer this is?

  • Theodore Livingston – you were there. Any idea what mixer this is?

  • Jesse Manriquez, Jimmie Jaz Jones, my NYC OG’s, do you know what this mixer is?

  • Jesse Manriquez, Jimmie Jaz Jones, my NYC OG’s, do you know what this mixer is?

  • Jesse Manriquez, Jimmie Jaz Jones, my NYC OG’s, do you know what this mixer is?

  • I had the Turntables! Technics SLB1’s.. The Mixer They Carried @The Wiz! Back in the day!!! 3rd Ave. Near 149 St. Boston Rd. I Just Can’t remember the Model?

  • I had the Turntables! Technics SLB1’s.. The Mixer They Carried @The Wiz! Back in the day!!! 3rd Ave. Near 149 St. Boston Rd. I Just Can’t remember the Model?

  • Judging by the lettering i’d say Pyramid or Dynacord….

  • Judging by the lettering i’d say Pyramid or Dynacord….

  • Marky Newby do you know this mixer ??

  • Marky Newby do you know this mixer ??

  • I’d of said maybe a very early Numark.

  • I think A Pyramid Sounds about right to Me?

  • Looks like a radio shack unit

  • Looks like a radio shack unit

  • Numark think it’s one of theirs, but not sure of the model. I’ve asked them to check. I’m sure like many people, we’ve all been scouring Google, but come up blank. It could be one of any number of manufacturers. Somebody somewhere must know. Keep digging people.

  • Numark think it’s one of theirs, but not sure of the model. I’ve asked them to check. I’m sure like many people, we’ve all been scouring Google, but come up blank. It could be one of any number of manufacturers. Somebody somewhere must know. Keep digging people.

  • radio shack

  • Thanks for your help people, but we know it’s either a Radio Shack, Numark, Gemini, Pyramid or indeed one of many different brands. Believe me – we’ve all been looking for this now. But we need a manufacturer AND a model.

  • Thanks for your help people, but we know it’s either a Radio Shack, Numark, Gemini, Pyramid or indeed one of many different brands. Believe me – we’ve all been looking for this now. But we need a manufacturer AND a model.

  • I’ve just been looking at the wording at the top. It does look like it has a letter like y that hangs down, like Pyramid or Dynacord, except their logos are all uppercase Y. So that white mark is messing with me.

  • I’ve just been looking at the wording at the top. It does look like it has a letter like y that hangs down, like Pyramid or Dynacord, except their logos are all uppercase Y. So that white mark is messing with me.

  • All you need to do is zoom and enhance.

  • All you need to do is zoom and enhance.

    • DJ Rob Ticho,Club mU

      ..enhance….enhance….enhance

  • I did a screen grab if u zoom in it looks like 2 words a 6 or 7 letter word and a 3 letter word.

  • I did a screen grab if u zoom in it looks like 2 words a 6 or 7 letter word and a 3 letter word.

  • Docta Dee, any idea?

  • Docta Dee, any idea?

  • Looks like the same mixer Cashmoney was using during his DMC run

  • Looks like the same mixer Cashmoney was using during his DMC run

  • i’m certain it’s radio shack/tandy/realistic (i think they were all the same company)

  • i’m certain it’s radio shack/tandy/realistic (i think they were all the same company)

  • dj crossfade

    i would buy one and put it under glass case :).
    damm i have seen this i cant remember what it was

  • greyboy

    definitely not realistic or numark….possibly meteor….

  • Christie Z-Pabon, Drew Bach – can you help? Nobody really knows what this mixer is.

  • Christie Z-Pabon, Drew Bach – can you help? Nobody really knows what this mixer is.

  • Fader caps are too small for a Numark. Looks like a GLI mixer, era is too old for a Pyramid mixer. GLI and Numark mixers from that era look very similar.

  • The other thing is that Numark mixers didn’t hit their stride until around ’86-89. Think NMS battles.

  • Calling in the Top Guns, Ben Hamilton, Eric Moore? Who’s going to take home the gold ring??

    • Ha, I saw this earlier and got thinking. Initially I thought Gemini but then I thought maybe a custom job.

    • I actually saw this in action watching “WS” in LBC, scene is pretty blurry, tuneage can’t be beat!

  • Calling in the Top Guns, Ben Hamilton, Eric Moore? Who’s going to take home the gold ring??

    • Ha, I saw this earlier and got thinking. Initially I thought Gemini but then I thought maybe a custom job.

    • I actually saw this in action watching “WS” in LBC, scene is pretty blurry, tuneage can’t be beat!

  • Calling in the Top Guns, Ben Hamilton, Eric Moore? Who’s going to take home the gold ring??

    • Ha, I saw this earlier and got thinking. Initially I thought Gemini but then I thought maybe a custom job.

    • I actually saw this in action watching “WS” in LBC, scene is pretty blurry, tuneage can’t be beat!

  • Having spent the weekend looking at every corner of the internet looking for this, I certainly know more about old school mixers than I did on Friday. But still no joy.

  • Having spent the weekend looking at every corner of the internet looking for this, I certainly know more about old school mixers than I did on Friday. But still no joy.

  • Having spent the weekend looking at every corner of the internet looking for this, I certainly know more about old school mixers than I did on Friday. But still no joy.

  • As it’s 2 words & looks like a Realistic,maybe Record Shack-but hey my memory of mixers is only back to 84…
    And Europe done a whole load of things-my mate had a big plastic Danish mixer from about 85 with needle meters & a radio(???),don’t think it had a makers name at all…

  • Here’s the thing-back then there were not many options. Like, your brands are cut in half. It would be a GLI or Lineartech most likely just by the odds.

  • Here’s the thing-back then there were not many options. Like, your brands are cut in half. It would be a GLI or Lineartech most likely just by the odds.

  • Here’s the thing-back then there were not many options. Like, your brands are cut in half. It would be a GLI or Lineartech most likely just by the odds.

  • Have you just asked DXT?

  • Have you just asked DXT?

  • Have you just asked DXT?

  • Scott Frost

    Realistic

  • nem0nic

    It’s SO CLOSE to a Numark Studio Master Control Center DM-1500A. I’m wondering if it’s just an earlier model than the one I’m looking at.

  • Sergio Pantaleo

    Hey Mark, have you got any confirmation back from your friend at Numark?

  • Dj L-BIZ (BEAT3)

    wow… can’t believe this has got so many people stumped (i’m no help, i just have a weakness for mixers with a wood trim)

    When i saw the post on fb i was wondering how long it would be before Mark got the call…

    be great one for some one to find in a shed somewhere…

    Who’s got DXT’s number?

  • I’ve messaged Dxt directly on Facebook now.

  • Davendiva

    I think Goldie uses 1 on his official vid for ‘inner city life’

    • The mixer in that video has VU meters. This one doesn’t.

  • Funkbro

    Maybe the Infinity Rappers know what he was using

  • realistic..look at the colors

  • realistic..look at the colors

  • realistic..look at the colors

  • I’ve got Numark and Gemini both putting their hand up for this now. Both are digging into their archives to get some proof.

  • I’ve got Numark and Gemini both putting their hand up for this now. Both are digging into their archives to get some proof.

  • I’ve got Numark and Gemini both putting their hand up for this now. Both are digging into their archives to get some proof.

  • And GrandMixer Dxt is on the case too. We will get an answer one way or another!

  • And GrandMixer Dxt is on the case too. We will get an answer one way or another!

  • And GrandMixer Dxt is on the case too. We will get an answer one way or another!

  • dj murj

    you guys are getting real close…feel like it’s a prototype or something that never existed…
    it’s like a mix of the 1450 and 1600..

  • dj murj

    i don’t believe this mixer actually existed other than a prototype…also I would please like all those hours I just wasted on google back! just kidding…hope someone figures it out.

    • You know it’s tough when Gemini and Numark both claim it’s theirs, but neither can produce the proof. It definitely does favour a Numark that we’ve yet to see. The 1500a is still the closest in my opinion. This is turning into quite a quest, but people who were there at the time and used the mixer are on the case too.

      • If the Numark products were being made in Taiwan then too, maybe it’s from the same factory but branded for someone else (small US company?) or even under the original Taiwanese name.

  • Sergio Pantaleo

    Asking to a friend from Ministry Of Sound he says that it can definitely be a Citronic ones. He’s doing some search as well 🙂

    • I don’t think it’s a Citronic. They had a very specific (distinctive) look….and they were British.

  • Danny Nation

    You might want to ask Grandmaster Flash, seeings as he made it!
    It was never a retail product and was a one off for the movie.
    He made it like he did with many mixers, for other DJ’s and movies of that time.
    Pretty sure he gets a technical mention in the end credits of the movie too.

    A little history of how it all started, can be found here:
    http://www.autistici.org/2000-maniax/texts/pedestrian%20history%20of%20turntablism.pdf

    …and here he talks about his first mixer:

    • nem0nic

      I’m not sure that’s correct. Flash was modifying mixers to add cueing because the mixers he was using didn’t have that feature on their own. So this would have been for early 70s mixers that predate the Meteor Clubman One-One. In fact in the book “Last Night a DJ Saved my Life”, Flash says that it was a big deal that Kool Herc did actually have a cueing function on his GLI Disco 3800, but never used it. Flash did those modifications to save money by buying non-DJ mixers and modifying them to do the job.

    • DJHombre

      Flash hacked a Sony MX8 mixer, although the mixer pictured doesn’t fit that bill either…looks a bit like a GLI PMX9000 – but not?!

  • I’m loving this thread!

  • Another variation from Gemini. Again, it’s close but not quite there. Will we ever get to the bottom of this?

  • dj murj

    some of the gemini mx series have key characteristics such as the face plate graphics with curved corners and separate eqs for left and right…

    • DJ ROBOKOP

      do you know the model number of that mixer in the middle with the dual crossfaders? i used to have that in the early 90’s.

  • Manolo Hoozn

    Gooooood this is so unnerving 😀
    A couple of times i thought I was on to something, but then I ended up with the same Numark/GLI/Gemini mixers you guys already mentioned.

    However, the letters in the top right corner of the mixer would be consistent with “Squire Pro”, a mixer series (?) made by Roger Squire/London who started to market and produce disco equipment in the 70s.

  • joeyjrx

    I bought my 1st DJ mixer (Numark 1650) back around ’84 from dealer who used to display gear at Star Records in San Jose, CA. If someone can hunt down Mike Love from a company called MC Disco Products, he will know what this mixer is.

  • Chris Roman

    I agree with Joey. If you look carefully at the 1600a below, the preamp sliders to the left of the faders (old school gain) and graphic match the Numark characteristics of the period. I’ve been searching the Numark archives and nothing yet. I have a call into one of the sales team members from that period to see if they remember. I am certain the one in the clip is either Numark or similar to a Numark design. Some things never change :).

  • Dave

    Check out this vid of D.ST

    He’s using a Gemini With the same markings on the faders although it is a slightly different mixer, From what I understand Gemini produced 4 mixers between 1979 &1983. The model numbers MX750, MX800, MX850 and MX950.

  • Did you spot Gemini DJ Flashback friday Defo 90% a Gemini. same case / Dual fader thing going on https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153428808115574

    • Was JUST about to post this myself haha.

    • It’s ben more or less confirmed that it’s a Numark by Grand Wizard Theodore. It was his mixer that he saved for months for. Still unsure of the model though.

  • Did you spot Gemini DJ Flashback friday Defo 90% a Gemini. same case / Dual fader thing going on https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153428808115574

    • Was JUST about to post this myself haha.

    • It’s ben more or less confirmed that it’s a Numark by Grand Wizard Theodore. It was his mixer that he saved for months for. Still unsure of the model though.

  • Did you spot Gemini DJ Flashback friday Defo 90% a Gemini. same case / Dual fader thing going on https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153428808115574

    • Was JUST about to post this myself haha.

    • It’s ben more or less confirmed that it’s a Numark by Grand Wizard Theodore. It was his mixer that he saved for months for. Still unsure of the model though.

  • dj murj

    this still keeps me up at night.

  • Chris Roman

    So I did ask Theodore Livingston (a.k.a Grand Wizard Theodore) the other day about this, since it’s him in the video, and says he is relatively certain it’s a Numark but we don’t know which one still. I did find more videos from back in the day including this one where the same mixer is used. http://youtu.be/YZjSO3IAJfU There are rear panel shots in this as well. Also there is a picture of him here in 1980 with the same mixer I think. http://www.flickr.com/photos/charlieahearn/3290406695/lightbox/ I have some old catalogs I’ll be looking through in a few days that might spot it.

    • Roberto Córdova Mansilla

      No: the Theodore’s mixer above is a CM LAB mixer cm-607 launched in 1977. DST mixer on “Wild Style” must be a GEMINI mixer cause his “PROFESSIONAL SERIES” BRAND.

  • UPDATE: Seems it was Theodore’s own mixer that he saved hard for. It’s a Numark, but nobody seems to know the model. Numark are digging deep into their archives.

  • UPDATE: Seems it was Theodore’s own mixer that he saved hard for. It’s a Numark, but nobody seems to know the model. Numark are digging deep into their archives.

  • I barely Remember my First “Clubman” & Gemini” 1977. I Was 12 yrs. Old. When I Bought Those two “Mixers” That year! With The SLB1’s My MOTHER BOUGHT Me For “CHRISTMAS” Of 1977..

  • I barely Remember my First “Clubman” & Gemini” 1977. I Was 12 yrs. Old. When I Bought Those two “Mixers” That year! With The SLB1’s My MOTHER BOUGHT Me For “CHRISTMAS” Of 1977..

    • Roberto Ginsburg

      Like Bambaataa: Her mother bought his Clubman system on 1975.

  • Surely it was Grandmaster Jay who invented this mixer!

  • Rowf The Beat Bender

    Well, I’m not sure, but it seems very similar to my oldschool Akiyama mixer! Nobody knows it? Hope it helps! It went to the garbage many years ago and I don’t have any pictures of this… sorry!
    In fact that mixer was given to me by a friend that found it in the garbage with a pair of Akiyama turntables too! They made me did my first tries in the Dj world!

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  • William
    • Close but not quite.

      • William

        ha, too many beers, i saw it and was sure it was but after close examination, it is clear that it is not…………my bad

        • Never apologise for posting DJ history. I’m learning a lot doing this.

  • Tygaelement

    I recall trying to identify this mixer many years ago..

    I think this is the same mixer used by Jazzy Jay & Whiz Kid….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaaqj9EQ6h8
    Has anyone attempted to skew distort the logo in a photoeditor ?

  • Tygaelement

    It’s a gemini mixer with professional series etched in the corner..

  • Tygaelement

    It’s a gemini mixer with professional series etched in the corner..

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  • Andre Djfoodstamp Sirois

    ha, this is awesome. thanks for posting this on behalf of DJpedia.

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  • Karl Detken

    Well mystery solved. Neither a Gemini or a Numark (Sorry my colleague Chris Roman). This mixer is an ELI SL-9090 and someone on our Facebook.com/Numark identified it. Here is a sale listing of the same model: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/Eli-SL–9090X-Stereo-Disc-Mixer-With-Equalizer-17625135.html

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